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Please explain a crime is a crime in my book

So in your book, if the roles were reversed, if there was video of George Floyd with his knee in that cop's neck killing him, would it have taken 5 days for George Floyd to be arrested?
 
So in your book, if the roles were reversed, if there was video of George Floyd with his knee in that cop's neck killing him, would it have taken 5 days for George Floyd to be arrested?

He would've been shot on sight by another cop if that was the case.

As opposed to what really happened when not ONE other cop even said "hey, man...maybe you should take your knee off his neck"...they are all complicit. Period.
 
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So in your book, if the roles were reversed, if there was video of George Floyd with his knee in that cop's neck killing him, would it have taken 5 days for George Floyd to be arrested?
No and it shouldn't have taken 5 days
 
He would've been shot on sight by another cop if that was the case.

As opposed to what really happened when not ONE other cop even said "hey, man...maybe you should take your knee off his neck"...they are all complicit. Period.

George Floyd was murdered. Eric Gardener was murdered with a choke hold while selling untaxed single cigarettes in NY. No charges.

And let us not forget what happened to Mr. Brown in Ferguson: Officer Wilson refused to carry mace, because he didn't like the smell; he refused to carry a taser, because it was too bulky. So, to stop Mr. Brown from pinning his cruiser door shut, Wilson pulled his handgun and shot through the door. When Mr. Brown then started walking away - unarmed. Officer Wilson ordered him to stop.... Brown stopped... raised his hands and shouted, "If you want to shoot me... shoot me." The closer Brown got to Wilson (having no mace or taser) he started to fire. Finally, the last shot was a downward killing shot as Brown had fallen to his knees. He was murdered. No charges.

Daniel Shaver (not a minority) was shot begging for life. He was murdered but the officer was found innocent by a jury. So there you go. Law enforcement is usually not charged and when they are, juries set them free. Politicians who can change the laws never do and we the people, given a chance to met out justice, hardly ever do.... whether in a jury or in a voting booth.

So, the politicians disarm citizens in the cities... and when the riots happen, and ANTIFA takes over, the police are nowhere to be found until enough folks are burned out, beaten or murdered. In the end we get the government we deserve. We never really demand change.

We are going to let the politicians order us to stay in our houses; let the police fine us for standing too close together; let the anarchists murder us and burn us out. We allow it because we allow the politicians to tell us it's the other political party doing it.

Truth.... we allow it ourselves and have only ourselves to blame.

In case you are unfamiliar...Daniel Shaver vid:
 
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George Floyd was murdered. Eric Gardener was murdered with a choke hold while selling untaxed single cigarettes in NY. No charges.

And let us not forget what happened to Mr. Brown in Ferguson: Officer Wilson refused to carry mace, because he didn't like the smell; he refused to carry a taser, because it was too bulky. So, to stop Mr. Brown from pinning his cruiser door shut, Wilson pulled his handgun and shot through the door. When Mr. Brown then started walking away - unarmed. Officer Wilson ordered him to stop.... Brown stopped... raised his hands and shouted, "If you want to shoot me... shoot me." The closer Brown got to Wilson (having no mace or taser) he started to fire. Finally, the last shot was a downward killing shot as Brown had fallen to his knees. He was murdered. No charges.

Daniel Shaver (not a minority) was shot begging for life. He was murdered but the officer was found innocent by a jury. So there you go. Law enforcement is usually not charged and when they are, juries set them free. Politicians who can change the laws never do and we the people, given a chance to met out justice, hardly ever do.... whether in a jury or in a voting booth.

So, the politicians disarm citizens in the cities... and when the riots happen, and ANTIFA takes over, the police are nowhere to be found until enough folks are burned out, beaten or murdered. In the end we get the government we deserve. We never really demand change.

We are going to let the politicians order us to stay in our houses; let the police fine us for standing too close together; let the anarchists murder us and burn us out. We allow it because we allow the politicians to tell us it's the other political party doing it.

Truth.... we allow it ourselves and have only ourselves to blame.

In case you are unfamiliar...Daniel Shaver vid:

Let's not over complicate the situation. If the justice system worked correctly there is no reason for ANTIFA or the anarchists to even be part of the conversation. It seems like the political/business establishment is finally realizing that every time a bad cop kills somebody it's going to result in millions of dollars in property damage and financial settlements.
 
Let's not over complicate the situation. If the justice system worked correctly there is no reason for ANTIFA or the anarchists to even be part of the conversation. It seems like the political/business establishment is finally realizing that every time a bad cop kills somebody it's going to result in millions of dollars in property damage and financial settlements.

I don't think they are finally realizing anything. Other than giving lip-service to anarchists and abrogating their responsibility to change police procedures that they, themselves control, the governors and mayors have done nothing and will do nothing because we keep reelecting them. I see no reason for any of the politicians to do anything other than blame the burned out cities on the opposite political party boogeyman.
 
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So, to explain to you sir, you understand that a "crime is not a crime". The justice system moves differently depending on who is being accused. That's why people are out in the street protesting.

So, the coordinated pallets of bricks, bottles with accelerants, staged stolen cars and the money changing hands on the streets and all the coordinated chatter between areas to be hit were all put together in a couple days because the officer wasn't charged... and it all stopped because he was charged... because well, the riots were only about Floyd. Ugh... maybe not. On the other hand, one might... just might get the idea that ANTIFA had riots planned and was merely looking for a convenient excuse.
 
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So, the coordinated pallets of bricks, bottles with accelerants, staged stolen cars and the money changing hands on the streets and all the coordinated chatter between areas to be hit were all put together in a couple days because the officer wasn't charged... and it all stopped because he was charged... because well, the riots were only about Floyd. Ugh... maybe not. On the other hand, one might... just might get the idea that ANTIFA had riots planned and was merely looking for a convenient excuse.

Twitter suspends fake antifa account run by white supremacists

https://www.dw.com/en/twitter-suspends-fake-antifa-account-run-by-white-supremacists/a-53656003


A white supremacist channel on Telegram encouraged followers to incite violence during police brutality protests by 'shooting in a crowd,' according to internal DHS memo

https://www.businessinsider.com/whi...ourages-violence-george-floyd-protests-2020-6

Sounds like some you flu klux klan members on here may have been behind it... Then tried to blame it on the far left...:rolleyes:
 
So, the coordinated pallets of bricks, bottles with accelerants, staged stolen cars and the money changing hands on the streets and all the coordinated chatter between areas to be hit were all put together in a couple days because the officer wasn't charged... and it all stopped because he was charged... because well, the riots were only about Floyd. Ugh... maybe not. On the other hand, one might... just might get the idea that ANTIFA had riots planned and was merely looking for a convenient excuse.

I'm not sure about your conspiracy theory about ANTIFA, but I'm also not going to dispute it. But why give ANTIFA the opportunity? Don't overlook the fact that this entire situation was caused because the justice system broke down in this situation and has broken down consistently for a long time when it comes to people of color.
 
Twitter suspends fake antifa account run by white supremacists

https://www.dw.com/en/twitter-suspends-fake-antifa-account-run-by-white-supremacists/a-53656003


A white supremacist channel on Telegram encouraged followers to incite violence during police brutality protests by 'shooting in a crowd,' according to internal DHS memo

https://www.businessinsider.com/whi...ourages-violence-george-floyd-protests-2020-6

Sounds like some you flu klux klan members on here may have been behind it... Then tried to blame it on the far left...:rolleyes:

Well, we all know about Twitter and its antics, don't we. Here is what you will not find out anywhere else.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020...-behavior-while-it-declares-blacklivesmatter/
 
I'm not sure about your conspiracy theory about ANTIFA, but I'm also not going to dispute it. But why give ANTIFA the opportunity? Don't overlook the fact that this entire situation was caused because the justice system broke down in this situation and has broken down consistently for a long time when it comes to people of color.

this situation and has broken down consistently for a long time when it comes to people of color.

I think if you look carefully at my first post you will find that I completely agree with you.
 
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James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution
In an extraordinary condemnation, the former defense secretary backs protesters and says the president is trying to turn Americans against one another.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...QsEG625bRKaMqnbzSEtm8NZ-UhOzXZ0fkBcu2rQ3jZW6M

Mattis fell out with the administration because he favored Iran. He didn't want to pull out of the nuclear deal. Then, he didn't like Trump's Syrian policy of reduced troops on the ground with Trump's idea of hammering Isis with air strikes. As it turned out Trump's plan was perfect.

We pushed Isis in to a half square mile and they surrendered. Syria, Turkey and the Kurds have so far worked out their differences. I believe Isis once controlled an area the size of Texas and is now gone as a nation state.

Result, Trump gets no real credit, as usual, and Mattis is a bitter man for having been so wrong on so many things. He was great in the Marines... should have stuck to it and retired. Now I gather he is vying for a talking head position at CNN.

Incidentally, even Obama fired Mattis without the courtesy of a phone call. Apparently, Mattis had a unique ability to irritate people.
 
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I see "breibart". Not even going to waste my time clicking on that kkk far right nut job trash of a "news" agency link... You being brainwashed by these types of sites further explains your nonsense...

See, I go to CNN as well as Breitbart. I read HuffPost online. That is why I am informed and you are not. The link you will not follow includes actual Twitter posts and Breitbart reporting them to Twitter. You will never get the complete picture if all you do is reinforce your bias.
 
Mattis fell out with the administration because he favored Iran. He didn't want to pull out of the nuclear deal. Then, he didn't like Trump's Syrian policy of reduced troops on the ground with Trump's idea of hammering Isis with air strikes. As it turned out Trump's plan was perfect.

We pushed Isis in to a half square mile and they surrendered. Syria, Turkey and the Kurds have so far worked out their differences. I believe Isis once controlled an area the size of Texas and is now gone as a nation state.

Result, Trump gets no real credit, as usual, and Mattis is a bitter man for having been so wrong on so many things. He was great in the Marines... should have stuck to it and retired. Now I gather he is vying for a talking head position at CNN.

Incidentally, even Obama fired Mattis without the courtesy of a phone call. Apparently, Mattis had a unique ability to irritate people.

And he's probably still mad at how his friend John Kelly got treated by POTUS.
 
I'm not sure about your conspiracy theory about ANTIFA, but I'm also not going to dispute it. But why give ANTIFA the opportunity? Don't overlook the fact that this entire situation was caused because the justice system broke down in this situation and has broken down consistently for a long time when it comes to people of color.

OJ, Assata Shakur, and Jussie Smollett seem to be doing OK but recognize the larger point.....but not about Antifa.
 
FBI arrests three more members of right wing extremist group 'The Base'

"The arrests came on the same day that three suspected members of the same group were detained in Maryland and Delaware.
All six men are reported members of white supremacist group The Base."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51144177

Yeah but according to their fellow right wing nut job members on this board we're to believe its all Antifa..:rolleyes:
 
"Three Nevada men with ties to a loose movement of right-wing extremists advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government have been arrested on terrorism-related charges in what authorities say was a conspiracy to spark violence during recent protests in Las Vegas.

Federal prosecutors say the three WHITE men with U.S. military experience are accused of conspiring to carry out a plan that began in April in conjunction with protests to reopen businesses closed because of the coronavirus.

The anti-government “boogaloo” movement is a loose network of gun enthusiasts who often express support for overthrowing the U.S. government. Its name, a reference to a 1984 movie sequel called “Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo,” is a code word for a second civil war.

The movement is rooted in online meme culture, but the coronavirus pandemic has become a catalyst for real-world activity. Many “boogaloo” followers have shown up at COVID-19 lockdown protests armed with rifles and wearing tactical vests over Hawaiian shirts and leis, a nod to the “big luau” derivation of the movement’s name."

https://apnews.com/6223153093f08fa9...E-O3D6DrMsItiCy92rApH8X0jilSaWJKgrGhKk0jcn-64

Things that make you go hmmmm:rolleyes:
 
"Three Nevada men with ties to a loose movement of right-wing extremists advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government have been arrested on terrorism-related charges in what authorities say was a conspiracy to spark violence during recent protests in Las Vegas.

Federal prosecutors say the three WHITE men with U.S. military experience are accused of conspiring to carry out a plan that began in April in conjunction with protests to reopen businesses closed because of the coronavirus.

The anti-government “boogaloo” movement is a loose network of gun enthusiasts who often express support for overthrowing the U.S. government. Its name, a reference to a 1984 movie sequel called “Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo,” is a code word for a second civil war.

The movement is rooted in online meme culture, but the coronavirus pandemic has become a catalyst for real-world activity. Many “boogaloo” followers have shown up at COVID-19 lockdown protests armed with rifles and wearing tactical vests over Hawaiian shirts and leis, a nod to the “big luau” derivation of the movement’s name."

https://apnews.com/6223153093f08fa9...E-O3D6DrMsItiCy92rApH8X0jilSaWJKgrGhKk0jcn-64

Things that make you go hmmmm:rolleyes:

Thank you! I read this online earlier and was waiting for it to be posted. Because now I am going to ask about what this means. I believe this entire mess is political, which is why I jumped back into the thread. I will sink slightly into race only to prove a small - but what I consider significant - point.

It's called political hijacking: affirmative action was primarily directed toward black males; it got hijacked into 'women and minorities' - white women are the primary beneficiary of a program designed to help the black male. More recently, with the growth of black owned businesses and black unemployment at an all time low, the flood of Hispanics - mostly illegal - into the country has wrecked the inner city school systems and turned the cities into warring cartels that have recruited young black males and set them against each other - because who has ever cared if black males kill each other off.

So, we have whites of fringe political persuasions supporting black citizens in destroying what are mostly minority businesses and low income housing. So, is the answer that minority blacks cannot identify white 'right-wingers' in their ranks or cannot identify middle class ANTIFA whites that are burning down their businesses?

And... if you look at all the vids you can clearly see - and many have been arrested - young, white ANTIFA, looting and beating shopkeepers in the streets. Scratch your head and ask how 'white supremacists' have managed to join primarily, middle class young ANTIFA to lead and financially support the black communities in self destruction?

I believe when you get to the level of asking that question, you get to knowing the answers in all this. ANTIFA is vast and huge. It is internationally financed. You couldn't fill a high school gym with real Nazis, but you sure as hell could find enough to want to start a race war.

All of this is why I have posted here that things will not change. The minority community is once again being used. After Freddy Gray, billions were directed to Baltimore that mysteriously disappeared. Progressive mayors and governors are allowing - and in fact encouraging - the destruction of their own cities. Bank on the fact that when the money shows up to rebuild it will also disappear into political pockets.

As always, the solution is in the hands of the inner city minorities themselves. You had the Freddy Gray riots and Baltimore is still a rat infested shithole. You still have a massive murder rate with only a third solved because the community has lost faith in the police and will not support them. All the while the black community elects the same people again and again that rip them off and ignore them while getting elected by blaming the other political party that never gets elected.

It is and will continue to be politics.
 
OJ, Assata Shakur, and Jussie Smollett seem to be doing OK but recognize the larger point.....but not about Antifa.

I'm not really sure what your point is, but you're using the wrong examples. OJ served 9 years for stealing his jersey, lol. Assata has been living in Cuba for like the last 30 years. Smollett is still under grand jury indictment and will still be charged at some point.
 
"Travis McMichael Allegedly Called Ahmaud Arbery a ‘****ing N-----’ After Shooting Him"


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ULbuRKDuU6NJ44odTUyOYUycYRaDiNB1U3oyggo4P0phg
 

ANTIFA is an international terrorist organization, claiming to be loosely connected. They have been kicked off Tumblr for hate.
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https://66.media.tumblr.com/16aea3fc14cd0ca640b4ae77ca70f44d/tumblr_ptwvpevIuQ1yrpbhwo1_1280.png
 
LA mayor cuts $150m from cops’ budget and gives it to communities of color instead – declaring he is committed to ‘making this moment not just a moment’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-cuts-150m-cops-gives-communities-color.html

Yes! All for dismantling a racist state sanctioned criminal enterprise..

In a city where you legally shit in the streets, I don't think they will miss the policing at all. When ANTIFA returns to the suburbs, remaining will be druggies and piles of shit but nowhere to buy a sandwich. Interesting.
 
"Travis McMichael Allegedly Called Ahmaud Arbery a ‘****ing N-----’ After Shooting Him"


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ULbuRKDuU6NJ44odTUyOYUycYRaDiNB1U3oyggo4P0phg

Gee! Are we now searching online for any racial slurs and 'alleged' incidents as though it proves anything. Is this to spawn posts and pics of gansta shootings in Chicago or Baltimore, or any white on black or black on white crime. You know... kind of a tit for tat stream of visual attacks from one race to the other. It proves nothing.

I mean, anybody can do it with a two second search.... how about this fellow that recently hacked a white couple with a machete...

https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/KelvinEdwards_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg
 
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MORE ON COVID-19 from a white ass cracker.

In the next 14 days, if there is no significant increase in COVID-19 from all these protests in the large metro areas...then open everything up. EVERYTHING!

Bars, restaurants, concerts, sports, gyms, theaters, malls, salad bars, licking shopping cart handles at Walmart...you name it. EVERY F***ING THING.
 
MORE ON COVID-19 from a white ass cracker.

In the next 14 days, if there is no significant increase in COVID-19 from all these protests in the large metro areas...then open everything up. EVERYTHING!

Bars, restaurants, concerts, sports, gyms, theaters, malls, salad bars, licking shopping cart handles at Walmart...you name it. EVERY F***ING THING.

Perhaps some states - and we can speculate which ones - will want to lockdown even more pending the potential Kung flu spike from all the protest proximity... can't be too careful... even if it saves one life.
 
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"Travis McMichael Allegedly Called Ahmaud Arbery a ‘****ing N-----’ After Shooting Him"


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ULbuRKDuU6NJ44odTUyOYUycYRaDiNB1U3oyggo4P0phg
so should they up the charges? is that against the law?
I'm really confused on what anyone thinks will come out of these protest/riots/looting/crying every day for a week now????????? I wish someone would tell me what the big plan is that they think can change things, is there a Magical Wand? So we can change white people that don't like blacks or blacks that don't like white people with a magic wand?

I keep hearing about how White Cops Always Kill Black Men, Yet the Stats Show That's Not True.
One Bad Cop Kill George Floyd and that's it end of story, hell I'm not even sure the Cop is Racist other than he did something stupid and wasn't paying much attention after the adrenaline of taking Floyd down to the ground with other Officers, it can be hard to take someone down that is full of drugs and NO I don't think he deserved to die and yes the Cop will pay for it I'm sure. The Evidence is what the Evidence is.

Systemic Racism???????????? Black Oppression????????? I don't see it
 
He shouldn't have to apologize for supporting Trumps possibility of initiating the Insurrection Act. It's in place for a reason. We the people were "granted" the right to freedom of speech & peaceful assembly. If we the people are burning down buildings, cars, homes, killing our neighbors then the Top Dog has a "duty" to regain order among the country.
Yes President Trump can deploy troops; right now he is giving the states an opportunity to call on them 1st to get their cities in order if They cannot or are unwilling Prs Trump will have to. Lives being taken to "protest" lives taken. All 4 people that have been killed in connection with the riots are successful, accomplished black men, their lives mattered as do yours and mine.
So "protestors", what are you saying? We the people can't hear you with all that chaos of bullets & flames behind you. Riots are stealing your voice, invading your platform as you speak about the injustices igniting your fight, directing your plight. Speak up I can't hear you among the chaos of destruction, enhancing impoverished deconstruction, sounding alarms of insurrection. Protestors - The Real Protestors - The ones in the front - Speak louder your voice is drowning out. Use your mouth for war, that's what it's for.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...OXI5pc3cm-w1dHOtYYacXX155v4dFVUbGp-Wmd1kf4Dc8

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Novoselic performing with Nirvana on MTV, December 1993. Photograph: Jeff Kravitz/FilmMagic, Inc
 
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