City transfer doors wide open
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You are wrong. One kid played at Braddick but went to Washington. The other kid was kicked out of Braddock and had to go to Washington, this kid is now in Martinsburg area
Lots of interesting information on this thread. I have been in education for over 30 years, coached at all levels from pee wee to high school and coached a wide variety of sports. The changes I have seen in the last decade to me are alarming.
I love sports, I really do but our society has "overemphasized"it's true role and purpose in the grand scheme of life. At the end of the day for 99% of STUDENT-athletes sports should be about learning life lessons that will make you a better person, spouse, parent and community member.
Winning and winning at all costs have become the main goal on most levels. Longer seasons, more games, athletes transferring and travel sports are now what is expected if you want to rise to the top. The atmosphere at games and the way many act is not conducive to an environment kids should be exposed to.
Somewhere along the line we lost our way and the unfortunate part of this is that adults are ruining what at one time was one of the greatest experiences a kid could have. I am currently not coaching but I attend games of former and current students and I feel sorry for them. The adult behavior is out of control, not all of the time, but more than it should be.
We need to ask ourselves if we were a kid playing sports would we want to play on two or three teams and travel many weekends? Would we want be forced to choose playing with my classmates or playing with my travel teammates? Would we want to have to chose between playing one sport and specializing or playing many different sports? Would we want to transfer to the school in our area that is the best ____ school or stay and play with the kids I grew up with? I could go on and on with more scenarios but I think you get my point.
I dont't have the answers but I hope for the sake of our younger generations we can at some point achieve some balance. We need to realize the true value in school and sports is getting the best possible education you can to increase your chances of living a good, productive life that contributes in a positive way to society.
I may take a beating for saying this on a sports board but more emphasis needs to be placed on having high academic standards and challenging kids in the classroom like we do on the fields, courts or tracks. Academics and sports work very well together when done with the proper perspective.
I love sports, I really do but our society has "overemphasized"it's true role and purpose in the grand scheme of life. At the end of the day for 99% of STUDENT-athletes sports should be about learning life lessons that will make you a better person, spouse, parent and community member.
Winning and winning at all costs have become the main goal on most levels. Longer seasons, more games, athletes transferring and travel sports are now what is expected if you want to rise to the top. The atmosphere at games and the way many act is not conducive to an environment kids should be exposed to.
Somewhere along the line we lost our way and the unfortunate part of this is that adults are ruining what at one time was one of the greatest experiences a kid could have. I am currently not coaching but I attend games of former and current students and I feel sorry for them. The adult behavior is out of control, not all of the time, but more than it should be.
We need to ask ourselves if we were a kid playing sports would we want to play on two or three teams and travel many weekends? Would we want be forced to choose playing with my classmates or playing with my travel teammates? Would we want to have to chose between playing one sport and specializing or playing many different sports? Would we want to transfer to the school in our area that is the best ____ school or stay and play with the kids I grew up with? I could go on and on with more scenarios but I think you get my point.
I dont't have the answers but I hope for the sake of our younger generations we can at some point achieve some balance. We need to realize the true value in school and sports is getting the best possible education you can to increase your chances of living a good, productive life that contributes in a positive way to society.
I may take a beating for saying this on a sports board but more emphasis needs to be placed on having high academic standards and challenging kids in the classroom like we do on the fields, courts or tracks. Academics and sports work very well together when done with the proper perspective.
"At the end of the day for 99% of STUDENT-athletes sports should be about learning life lessons that will make you a better person, spouse, parent and community member."
"I may take a beating for saying this on a sports board but more emphasis needs to be placed on having high academic standards and challenging kids in the classroom like we do on the fields, courts or tracks. Academics and sports work very well together when done with the proper perspective"
Amen.... Can't add anything to that.
No, "talking" to coaches and walking on and quitting are not offers. But if Brian wants to define that as an "offer" I'm not going to debate back and forth with him.
It's amazing what some people consider an offer these days. For DI, DI-AA and D2 there's a scholarship offer and a walk-on offer. The former is either a full or partial scholarship, depending on the level, while the latter includes no money.
For example, from what I've read and heard, FH's QB who's going to WVU to kick, received a Preferred Walk-On offer.. which means they really like him and want him on their team, but aren't willing to invest any scholarship money in him yet. They want him to compete with the other guys there, and chances are within a year or two he'll either be placed on scholarship, or not. And the guys who walk-on and don't eventually earn a scholarship (or scholarship money) generally quit or transfer to a smaller school where they can play.
Kickers and punters are a different animal because colleges are not going to put two guys on scholarship for kicking a football. They value the 85 FBS scholarship allotment to fill other positions. It's rare an incoming frosh kicker gets a scholarship unless the starter from the previous season departed. For the record, Danny King has full scholarship offers. He wants to be at WVU and his academics permitted him to lower the cost considerably even without getting a first year football scholarship. But yes, Danny will have to earn a scholarship while there much the same as current WVU starter Evan Staley (from Hampshire) had to do. Most all kickers and punters pretty much have to go this route.
Yes, 7 of the players I named had financial offer opportunities to play college football. But some did not meet the academic requirements for that money. Some posters dont understand lower level recruiting and how money gets distributed thru grades and test scores. Another, who almost didn't play his senior year, chose not to play anymore and Beal got one for baseball. Counting them, Yes that is nine D2 and D3 caliber players on the same FH team. Then some wonder why FH swept every top level post season award for this area.
I understand the Times News top awards don't always make college level players. But most of them do if you look at the history of those awards. FH has swept the Area MVP, Offensive, Defensive and Lineman top awards 2 years straight. Many of them co-awards. That's 11 players that won the area top awards. Yes they can all play D2 and D3 ball.
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Exactly, Todd. The one coach at FH who's a friend of mine said that even before Danny started his junior year, Towson had offered him a full scholarship after he did really well at one of their camps. Pretty impressive considering he was still an underclassman at that point.
And yes, it's different for kickers. Both of our starters in college had different routes. One was a walk-on, one had a partial offer up front. I've seen a couple of the sites where kickers are rated, and it only seems like a handful of kids every year get full rides to D1 schools out of high school.
I just looked at Maryland's stats from last year and they were 2/5 on field goals for the entire season with a long of 33 yards... And from what I see, they didn't sign a kicker in this year's class.
A buddy of mine who trains Danny King told me last Fall that Danny has won the MD kicking camp the last three summers in a row, and they never even send him a postcard, invited him to a game, nothing.
And that's why they're MD.
i believe MD didn't sign a kicker this yr because they signed a Scholarship kicker the yr or 2 before in joseph petrino
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Looks like you're right. He's the guy who went 2/5 last year. Did alright the year before that, though.
Speaking of transfers...the WV TGC Forum has been talking about Keyser head coach Sean Biser taking the Morgantown HS head coaching vacancy for some time now. I know he applied. Rumors are he will get offered the job. Just passing along what I heard but I have no poker in this fire so just pure speculation based on unsubstantiated hearsay. But I do know he is a front runner. Expect an announcement from Morgantown here soon on who they are hiring.
That'd be a big move for Sean, especially since he's a Keyser native. He's won at both stops though. Had Hampshire at probably the best they've ever been, and Keyser seems to be an annual playoff team now.
I'd be surprised if A) there's not a strong candidate for that job who's already a Morgantown guy that would result in B) Morgantown hiring an outsider.
Thank you CumberlandHSFB for this truth!!
Much more realistic than “half the 2018 championship team got offers”. I know how hard it is to get football money at the next level, let alone in a small community such as ours, that statement was just not believable. Money for academics (although it’s awesome) is not the same thing as a football scholarship offer. Talking to coaches and going on visits doesn’t equate an offer. Winning a state championship doesn’t mean colleges come dropping offers at your feet. Its much more of a process than that. Also, with the use of the FH football Twitter page, the Red Huddle and F Club social media pages, along with this site - I find it real hard to believe that if all those kids had “offers” it would would not have been publicized. The only ones I heard about were King and Bishop.
I am not saying all those kids didn’t have the ability to play D2 or D3, I’m sure they did but college ball at ANY level is a completely different animal than high school and requires a commitment a lot of kids just aren’t willing to put into it.
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