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bigsavage

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I can't wait to hear all of your crying The Night After The Election Knowing You Will Still Be Suffering for The Foreseeable Future.
4 More Years of Trump and The 8 Years of Pence/Ivanka Trump.
it must really be sad for people like you knowing that The White House is too far out of reach, The Supreme Court is 6-3 and The Senate is All Red. You Better Just Hope You Hold House Congress or that Total Ass Kicking Will Have You Wanting to Move to China, but look at it this way maybe Hunter Biden Can Get Ya a Job

WTH are you talking about? I could give 2 shits who is selected as president. I've said this several times. Keep up half pint...
 

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"White nationalist Richard Spencer has said he will be backing Democratic candidate Joe Biden in November's election after previously distancing himself from Donald Trump."

"The MAGA/Alt-Right moment is over. I made mistakes; Trump is an obvious disaster; but mainly the paradigm contained flaws that we now are able to perceive. And it needs to end," Spencer wrote. "So be patient. We'll have another day in the sun. We need to recover and return in a new form."

Guess Richard Spencer is not a White Nationalist b/c he thinks Trump is a disaster and no longer supports him? Wait a minute, did you just admit these terrorists can't be far-right bc they supposedly don't support Trump? So you're saying far right terrorism is tied to Trump support?

https://www.newsweek.com/richard-spencer-joe-biden-trump-maga-1527141

You're either slurpin' up ringer or tryin' to weasel out of callin' everyone but yourself a fuggin' devil. Try reading a little first so others do no have to explain you to yourself.
 

bigsavage

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These Liberals have totally lost it. smh

NY Times:
A recent New York Times investigation, based on more than two decades of confidential tax-return data for Mr. Trump and hundreds of his companies, showed that he paid no U.S. income taxes in 11 of the 18 years that The Times examined. He paid only $750 in both 2016 and 2017.

Yeah No Shit, why would he pay income taxes in 16 or 17 when he handed the Companies to other family members as he had to as President, He gives his Presidential Salary away each year.

All business men have beat the loopholes in paying taxes, one business works and one doesn't and that's how the tax code works, you Write it off.

it's still so funny that liberals think working American are supposed to take care of them and illegals by actually going out to make money for them.

Good Luck as Next up this will go to The Supreme Court and again be a waste of time and the taxpayers money.

Here I will Help You Liberal Clowns Out
The Supreme Court Has Ruled in Favor of President Trump 6-3
Now go find a safe space and tell us how it's Racist, Xenophobic & Homophobic
and you're not gonna stand for it so you will send more looters, rioters and domestic terrorist into the streets in November

I can't wait for the November Shit Show...

Trump Wins Re-Election
Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Trump on Taxes 6-3
Republicans Retain the Senate Majority
Republicans Take over The Majority of House Congress
For 4 Years and The Foreseeable Future They Complete The Wall and Stop Illegals from coming in, while shipping many other illegal criminal out or putting them in prison for year and years.
Antifa & BLM are Declared Domestic Terrorist and Many Criminals are Shot in The Streets and some arrested.
California, New York and Chicago Illinois have Walls Built Around Them and They are considered Illegals (LMFAO)
The NBA Players go on Strike, Lebron Says Welcomes to Mcdonald's May I take Your Order
Adam Silver is Now Working for Rudy Giuliani selling Hot Dogs from a cart.
Public Liberal Universities Lose Funding and Close Their Doors.
The Civil War of 2022 Happens on One Side The Red Toting Gun Carrying Patriots Defeat The Blue Side Dildo Toting Crybabies whom were yelling their last words of it's not fair.....


The Leader of The Liberal Party Stop for Storybook Hour Just Days Before The War Started.


Let This Shit Begin...

All I want to know is do we get Red Uniforms?


it's Coming Again Bitches....










I can't wait for the November Shit Show...

Trump Wins Re-Election
Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Trump on Taxes 6-3
Republicans Retain the Senate Majority
Republicans Take over The Majority of House Congress
For 4 Years and The Foreseeable Future They Complete The Wall and Stop Illegals from coming in, while shipping many other illegal criminal out or putting them in prison for year and years.
Antifa & BLM are Declared Domestic Terrorist and Many Criminals are Shot in The Streets and some arrested.
California, New York and Chicago Illinois have Walls Built Around Them and They are considered Illegals (LMFAO)
The NBA Players go on Strike, Lebron Says Welcomes to Mcdonald's May I take Your Order
Adam Silver is Now Working for Rudy Giuliani selling Hot Dogs from a cart.
Public Liberal Universities Lose Funding and Close Their Doors.
The Civil War of 2022 Happens on One Side The Red Toting Gun Carrying Patriots Defeat The Blue Side Dildo Toting Crybabies whom were yelling their last words of it's not fair.....

This post aged well.. 😂 How soon can we pack the clown up and move his circus out of 1600 Pennsylvania ave? Just goes to show you and the moron that liked your post have no clue and can't be taken seriously... Good Riddance!!!!!!!
 

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This post aged well.. 😂 How soon can we pack the clown up and move his circus out of 1600 Pennsylvania ave? Just goes to show you and the moron that liked your post have no clue and can't be taken seriously... Good Riddance!!!!!!!

Yeah I would be proud of all the cheating as well. smh
if this was the liberals being cheated they would be rioting in the streets and burning down buildings.

Nothing like having 78% of Democrats Votes being sent in by Mail because they are too lazy to go stand in line like the rest of America, it's either safe to go out whether it's to Vote or go to The Market.

138,000 to 0 runs in vote counts favoring one candidate do not happen in elections, unless someone is cheating.
This is a democrat coup attempt...again.

It's okay Lets shut down the Counting of Votes Each Night and Then Dump some more Votes in so we are leading in the morning.


I would be proud to get all the votes from so many dead people.



 

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Yeah I would be proud of all the cheating as well. smh
if this was the liberals being cheated they would be rioting in the streets and burning down buildings.

Nothing like having 78% of Democrats Votes being sent in by Mail because they are too lazy to go stand in line like the rest of America, it's either safe to go out whether it's to Vote or go to The Market.

138,000 to 0 runs in vote counts favoring one candidate do not happen in elections, unless someone is cheating.
This is a democrat coup attempt...again.

It's okay Lets shut down the Counting of Votes Each Night and Then Dump some more Votes in so we are leading in the morning.


I would be proud to get all the votes from so many dead people.





Lmao @ this snowflake crybaby sore loser. Take that hot L and get prepared to help your lord and savior pack up his shit...
 
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so I share news articles and the one of the 21k dead people Voting in PA was from Liberals News Washington Post and You share some unknown Thugs post from facebook. lol
Haha We thought it was bad the past 4 years with dildo waving liberals in the streets, idiots burning buildings, cars, assaulting people in the streets.
BLM & Antifa will look like School Girl's to what's about to happen now.
We waited for The Government to step in and clean up these streets and take out these lawless scumbags now it's going to happen anyways as I can guarantee the people have had enough and will fight and now clean up the steets themselves. Sit Back and Enjoy Socialism because We aren't China and We're not just gonna take it.
By The Way My Offer Still Stands to Meet You Anywhere You Would Like.....
 
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so I share news articles and the one of the 21k dead people Voting in PA was from Liberals News Washington Post and You share some unknown Thugs post from facebook. lol
Haha We thought it was bad the past 4 years with dildo waving liberals in the streets, idiots burning buildings, cars, assaulting people in the streets.
BLM & Antifa will look like School Girl's to what's about to happen now.
We waited for The Government to step in and clean up these streets and take out these lawless scumbags now it's going to happen anyways as I can guarantee the people have had enough and will fight and now clean up the steets themselves. Sit Back and Enjoy Socialism because We aren't China and We're not just gonna take it.
By The Way My Offer Still Stands to Meet You Anywhere You Would Like.....

Bye bye sore loser.. You and your predictions are a joke just like your loser lord and savior... Go crawl under the rock you came from snowflake..
 

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so I share news articles and the one of the 21k dead people Voting in PA was from Liberals News Washington Post and You share some unknown Thugs post from facebook. lol
Haha We thought it was bad the past 4 years with dildo waving liberals in the streets, idiots burning buildings, cars, assaulting people in the streets.
BLM & Antifa will look like School Girl's to what's about to happen now.
We waited for The Government to step in and clean up these streets and take out these lawless scumbags now it's going to happen anyways as I can guarantee the people have had enough and will fight and now clean up the steets themselves. Sit Back and Enjoy Socialism because We aren't China and We're not just gonna take it.
By The Way My Offer Still Stands to Meet You Anywhere You Would Like.....

The Republicans basically stole the elections in 2000 and 2016, so they can’t cry now, lol. I was an election judge for a few years and at every election site in the country there are both R and D representatives to oversee the process.

The world didn’t come to an end in 2016 and it won’t come to an end in 2020. Trump has to contest this election as long as possible because as soon as he leaves office he’s looking at 500 lawsuits, lol

The Democrats have a lot of work to do too because they faced the worst candidate in the history of American politics and still barely won. If they had faced a regular person Biden would have lost badly
 

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Everyone knows Trump is a boob. Even the people that vote for him deep down inside. Most just won't admit it. I don't think a vote for Trump was 100% about getting him re-elected as it was about opposite ideals with the Democrats (or should I say the extreme left). Because let's face it...the extreme left and the extreme right is taking over which is where the hate is initially fueled. It's very easy to fall prey in the process.

I have been a registered Dem since age 18. That has not changed. But I am capable of questioning my own side of the fence. There are some actual ideals Trumps was successful in implementing that were very crucial such as Middle East peace agreements, bringing a good chunk of our troops home from overseas. It's time to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Making business tough on China so the US can thrive...that's business people. So many other things he did that were so poor (such as an actual building of a wall) made him easy to hate. I mean, if the goal is to limit violent and criminal immigrants there are other ways then building a wall.

The extreme left on the other hand, Defunding the Police? Seriously? Even boyz knows the real deal in the hard parts of the city. The stand up folks want police help from what I can see when looking deeper.

My concern with Biden is his tax and spend plan. Second is his plan for dismantling the US oil production which only means relying on oil from foreign county. Because the oil demand won't go away regardless of who is president. His spending budget is historically the highest in history and I have no idea how he is going to get the cash. I told my mother and father their social security will be taxed and I believe it will. Maybe Biden is true to his promise that taxes will not be raised for those making under $400K. If true, as a business owner I know that my supply line cost is going to skyrocket because when my corp supplier gets reamed, I get reamed...of which my customers get reamed. The end user will pay for the tax increase at the register and gas pump. As for oil and energy, even the people that promote green drive gas cars and heat/cool their homes with it.

On the plus side I hope Biden can get us back into world climate agreements, better handle our forests, get better opportunities for people of different race so we can end the violence and destruction. But the hate will only get worse. Now it will be the extreme right that pushes back for 4 more years. Count on it. Ugh.
 
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Everyone knows Trump is a boob. Even the people that vote for him deep down inside. Most just won't admit it. I don't think a vote for Trump was 100% about getting him re-elected as it was about opposite ideals with the Democrats (or should I say the extreme left). Because let's face it...the extreme left and the extreme right is taking over which is where the hate is initially fueled. It's very easy to fall prey in the process.

I have been a registered Dem since age 18. That has not changed. But I am capable of questioning my own side of the fence. There are some actual ideals Trumps was successful in implementing that were very crucial such as Middle East peace agreements, bringing a good chunk of our troops home from overseas. It's time to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Making business tough on China so the US can thrive...that's business people. So many other things he did that were so poor (such as an actual building of a wall) made him easy to hate. I mean, if the goal is to limit violent and criminal immigrants there are other ways then building a wall.

The extreme left on the other hand, Defunding the Police? Seriously? Even boyz knows the real deal in the hard parts of the city. The stand up folks want police help from what I can see when looking deeper.

My concern with Biden is his tax and spend plan. Second is his plan for dismantling the US oil production which only means relying on oil from foreign county. Because the oil demand won't go away regardless of who is president. His spending budget is historically the highest in history and I have no idea how he is going to get the cash. I told my mother and father their social security will be taxed and I believe it will. Maybe Biden is true to his promise that taxes will not be raised for those making under $400K. If true, as a business owner I know that my supply line cost is going to skyrocket because when my corp supplier gets reamed, I get reamed...of which my customers get reamed. The end user will pay for the tax increase at the register and gas pump. As for oil and energy, even the people that promote green drive gas cars and heat/cool their homes with it.

On the plus side I hope Biden can get us back into world climate agreements, better handle our forests, get better opportunities for people of different race so we can end the violence and destruction. But the hate will only get worse. Now it will be the extreme right that pushes back for 4 more years. Count on it. Ugh.

I’m also a Dem but politically I’m moderate. I vote for the best candidate regardless of party. I actually had high hopes for Trump in 2016. I liked the idea of a candidate who was not an “establishment” selection. I hated Hilary as the democratic nominee which would have basically been the continuation of an oligarchy. If Trump would have conducted himself even somewhat presidential he would have won in a landslide. Politically he was actually pretty good for African-Americans.

You are 100% correct. Most people who live in tough neighborhoods aren’t in favor of the “defund the police” stuff. And the tide is turning against BLM. Their philosophy is really disturbing. When you see those protests on TV most of the time there are white liberals and middle class blacks behind it.
 

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I’m also a Dem but politically I’m moderate. I vote for the best candidate regardless of party. I actually had high hopes for Trump in 2016. I liked the idea of a candidate who was not an “establishment” selection. I hated Hilary as the democratic nominee which would have basically been the continuation of an oligarchy. If Trump would have conducted himself even somewhat presidential he would have won in a landslide. Politically he was actually pretty good for African-Americans.

You are 100% correct. Most people who live in tough neighborhoods aren’t in favor of the “defund the police” stuff. And the tide is turning against BLM. Their philosophy is really disturbing. When you see those protests on TV most of the time there are white liberals and middle class blacks behind it.

LOL, I keep saying that, "why are all these rioters white as rice." BLM isn't a bad concept until extremism steps in. But that is usually the case for many political groups. Even I catch myself getting caught up in extremism. Or another synonym for it is "hate". Luckily most of the time I can catch myself and step away with logic. Not always as you well know. I'm only human, of flesh and blood I'm made.

Trump just could not stop talking and tweeting. His own worst enemy. I still believe some of his political moves such as building a wall was whack however. Others not. With healthcare, to me the problem is not how to pay for it (everyone should have access to healthcare) but how much it costs. There isn't a politician on any side that will fight cost as they all lobby.

Lastly, I was taken back or should I say blown away at what happened right before the election when the Hunter Biden plot thickened. And not because I took a side either. But the fact CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, Twitter, Facebook, etc. just buried it with complete tyranny was an eye-opener. Mostly because anything that involves dirt is hot topic ratings and money for the media and they pump it out with great speed and numbers. But this was just crazy. I am actually glad it was not a topic come election time but have never seen anything like that. The media is the biggest problem in America right now. Big time. It's a multi-billion dollar sales industry and we suck it up like candy. I can't even watch ESPN anymore unless it's a live game.
 

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let me know if you and your boyfriend littlesausage ever decide to come out of the closet and turn the light on

Why? He's over 15, so you wouldn't be interested in him, lol.
It was 19 years ago, so it didn't really happen, and she was almost 16 so its cool!

Your desperation to normalize this is on par with Trump's desperation at losing this election.
 
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I can't wait to hear all of your crying The Night After The Election Knowing You Will Still Be Suffering for The Foreseeable Future.
4 More Years of Trump and The 8 Years of Pence/Ivanka Trump.
it must really be sad for people like you knowing that The White House is too far out of reach, The Supreme Court is 6-3 and The Senate is All Red. You Better Just Hope You Hold House Congress or that Total Ass Kicking Will Have You Wanting to Move to China, but look at it this way maybe Hunter Biden Can Get Ya a Job
This post has aged beautifully!
 
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so has your mom, she still sucks cock with the best of em, actually she's getting better the older she gets
At least she didn't have to worry about getting the HIV from you then, since she's old. You just give it to some unsuspecting high school girl you throw in the car and then tie up in the dungeon of the DawgHouse. Are you auditioning for when Trump escapes jail and flees to Epstein Island? Bigdawg like little girls, doesn't he?
 

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Yeah I would be proud of all the cheating as well. smh

You were sure proud of all the cheating in 2016 [shrugs]

if this was the liberals being cheated they would be rioting in the streets and burning down buildings.

Do you mean like the conservative crybabies chanting "stop the count" in one state, and "count the votes" in others? Which is it?

Nothing like having 78% of Democrats Votes being sent in by Mail because they are too lazy to go stand in line like the rest of America, it's either safe to go out whether it's to Vote or go to The Market.

Yep, it's democrats fault republicans are too stupid to find the easiest, safest way to legally vote.

138,000 to 0 runs in vote counts favoring one candidate do not happen in elections, unless someone is cheating.
This is a democrat coup attempt...again.

And that didn't in this election... reporting votes like that happens all the time, though, I understand you have to grasp on to any conspiracy at this point.

and yeah, the democrats rigged the presidential election, but chose not to rig the Senate election. Get real, jackass.


It's okay Lets shut down the Counting of Votes Each Night and Then Dump some more Votes in so we are leading in the morning.

Yeah, let's just stop counting legal votes because my guy will lose if we dont!


I would be proud to get all the votes from so many dead people.

Being on the roll isn't the same as voting. Someone needs an elementary school civics refresher



Just following the law.


Project Veritas? Lol! They've been caught lying every time!

I've never seen a man less capable of thinking for himself than you. Please though, continue to cling to desperate conspiracies. If you can convince yourself it was ok to kidnap a girl because it was 19 years ago and she was almost 16, I can see how you would convince yourself that Trump must have been cheated.
 

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Public health officials warn that mass celebrations for Biden create a high risk of COVID spread

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Public health officials warn that mass celebrations for Biden create a high risk of COVID spread

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I see your point but irresponsibility has definitely been a bipartisan activity during the pandemic. It wasn’t a great decision to have those fall high school dances last month either. We can cherry pick stuff all day. The main difference is these protests are unorganized events. The school decisions are sanctioned by public entities and fall within the political realm. After Hogan chastised Allegany County this week it didn’t give the school officials much choice. If even one student dies from Covid the BOE is facing a legal nightmare.
 

TDHelmick

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I see your point but irresponsibility has definitely been a bipartisan activity during the pandemic. It wasn’t a great decision to have those fall high school dances last month either. We can cherry pick stuff all day. The main difference is these protests are unorganized events. The school decisions are sanctioned by public entities and fall within the political realm. After Hogan chastised Allegany County this week it didn’t give the school officials much choice. If even one student dies from Covid the BOE is facing a legal nightmare.

The virus doesn't care about what you just said.
There is always somebody that wants to twist the rules and interpretations of safety to make sure kids are locked down. It's that simple. Either you want to slow the spread of COVID or you do not. Picking and choosing what is OK and what is not is disgraceful.

Rocky Gap Casino is an organized event.
The Gay Pride Parade was an organized event.
The Trump Rallies and Biden Celebrations are an organized event.
The live music at the town center is an organized event.
 

TDHelmick

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I see your point but irresponsibility has definitely been a bipartisan activity during the pandemic. It wasn’t a great decision to have those fall high school dances last month either. We can cherry pick stuff all day. The main difference is these protests are unorganized events. The school decisions are sanctioned by public entities and fall within the political realm. After Hogan chastised Allegany County this week it didn’t give the school officials much choice. If even one student dies from Covid the BOE is facing a legal nightmare.

Is this an organized event like the fall high school dances that were not school affiliated?

Cumberland on Patrol
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Everyone knows Trump is a boob. Even the people that vote for him deep down inside. Most just won't admit it. I don't think a vote for Trump was 100% about getting him re-elected as it was about opposite ideals with the Democrats (or should I say the extreme left). Because let's face it...the extreme left and the extreme right is taking over which is where the hate is initially fueled. It's very easy to fall prey in the process.

I have been a registered Dem since age 18. That has not changed. But I am capable of questioning my own side of the fence. There are some actual ideals Trumps was successful in implementing that were very crucial such as Middle East peace agreements, bringing a good chunk of our troops home from overseas. It's time to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Making business tough on China so the US can thrive...that's business people. So many other things he did that were so poor (such as an actual building of a wall) made him easy to hate. I mean, if the goal is to limit violent and criminal immigrants there are other ways then building a wall.

The extreme left on the other hand, Defunding the Police? Seriously? Even boyz knows the real deal in the hard parts of the city. The stand up folks want police help from what I can see when looking deeper.

My concern with Biden is his tax and spend plan. Second is his plan for dismantling the US oil production which only means relying on oil from foreign county. Because the oil demand won't go away regardless of who is president. His spending budget is historically the highest in history and I have no idea how he is going to get the cash. I told my mother and father their social security will be taxed and I believe it will. Maybe Biden is true to his promise that taxes will not be raised for those making under $400K. If true, as a business owner I know that my supply line cost is going to skyrocket because when my corp supplier gets reamed, I get reamed...of which my customers get reamed. The end user will pay for the tax increase at the register and gas pump. As for oil and energy, even the people that promote green drive gas cars and heat/cool their homes with it.

On the plus side I hope Biden can get us back into world climate agreements, better handle our forests, get better opportunities for people of different race so we can end the violence and destruction. But the hate will only get worse. Now it will be the extreme right that pushes back for 4 more years. Count on it. Ugh.
I have always appreciated your posts and see where you are coming from in just about all you say. I am curious though as to what getting into world climate agreements would do. Our CO2 levels are lower now than when we were in those agreements. We're not sending billions of dollars to Paris so they can distribute that money to other countries to prop up their govts for cutting back manufacturing. Meanwhile, nobody is paying us to cut back manufacturing, those jobs go to China, and the reduction in levels that places is balanced out by the places like China who says "if you shut down a coal mine, we'll build another, thanks"!!!! I"m not an expert on any of this but this is my understanding. We can all want cleaner air and water but what in the world does that have to do being in a club that doesn't change the bottom line. I guess this rubs me the wrong way but every time somebody who claims to care about the planet, then they jump on a private plane and pollute the sky so they can have a fun weekend in Bali I can't take them seriously. When somebody pays Al Gore $1 million to speak at a function, it makes me wonder why if he's so concerned about why is he taking that money instead of putting it towards the cause.
 
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The virus doesn't care about what you just said.
There is always somebody that wants to twist the rules and interpretations of safety to make sure kids are locked down. It's that simple. Either you want to slow the spread of COVID or you do not. Picking and choosing what is OK and what is not is disgraceful.

Rocky Gap Casino is an organized event.
The Gay Pride Parade was an organized event.
The Trump Rallies and Biden Celebrations are an organized event.
The live music at the town center is an organized event.

Once again, it’s not my intention to argue over what gathering was good or bad. I’m looking at the legal ramifications to explain why the decisions are being made.

Rocky Gap casino is a private business for adults. The Gay Pride March was sponsored by Cumberland Pride which probably has about $100 in their treasury. The live music thing the other night was thrown together by somebody on Facebook who didn’t have a permit.

My point is if anybody attends these events and gets sick nobody is getting sued. The school officials are making decisions because they know they can get sued or fired. I don’t necessarily agree with the decisions but I definitely understand why they were made. They would be on the witness stand being asked, “After Gov Hogan said in the press conference that Covid cases in the county were exploding why did you continue to allow in person classes?”
 

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TDH,
Boyz hit the nail squarely on the head. Saying that kids should be playing MPSSAA/ACPS sanctioned sports because the bars and casino is open is a straw man argument. Its completely irrelevant and its literally the ONLY argument you keep pushing.

Comparing a government entity, charged with protecting kids at the risk of litigious retaliation vs adults making their own decision to go to a private business. i get the frustration, but on the other hand...the BOE is damned either way. and they HAVE to err on the side of caution - - they just flat out have to... the way I look at it, if adults (ie parents) continue to be careless about what they are doing its THEIR fault the virus is trending up. Again, consequences. I'm pretty good with wearing my mask, but apparently somewhere I wasnt careful enough, because I tested positive two weeks ago, and i have been slipping more often prior to that. Now my mom got it, my grandson got it, his mom got it, etc...all because of ME...thats not on them. So am I going to blame the bar or restaurant I went to? Or myself? Since im a normal person, i blame myself.

Like Boyz said, if ACPS just let everything ride during this surge and they ended up in court because someone died - be a teacher or student - they'd be in a world of hurt. And they would get their ass kicked, and at the expense of the taxpayer, me and you, they'd be shelling out some serious compensation. You know very well that is absolutely true. No one is forced to be at the casino or a bar, so those places arent going to be sued. And they arent responsible for several thousand minor children whose parents basically entrust them to keep them safe.

Your argument has run its course.
 

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TDH,
Boyz hit the nail squarely on the head. Saying that kids should be playing MPSSAA/ACPS sanctioned sports because the bars and casino is open is a straw man argument. Its completely irrelevant and its literally the ONLY argument you keep pushing.

Comparing a government entity, charged with protecting kids at the risk of litigious retaliation vs adults making their own decision to go to a private business. i get the frustration, but on the other hand...the BOE is damned either way. and they HAVE to err on the side of caution - - they just flat out have to... the way I look at it, if adults (ie parents) continue to be careless about what they are doing its THEIR fault the virus is trending up. Again, consequences. I'm pretty good with wearing my mask, but apparently somewhere I wasnt careful enough, because I tested positive two weeks ago, and i have been slipping more often prior to that. Now my mom got it, my grandson got it, his mom got it, etc...all because of ME...thats not on them. So am I going to blame the bar or restaurant I went to? Or myself? Since im a normal person, i blame myself.

Like Boyz said, if ACPS just let everything ride during this surge and they ended up in court because someone died - be a teacher or student - they'd be in a world of hurt. And they would get their ass kicked, and at the expense of the taxpayer, me and you, they'd be shelling out some serious compensation. You know very well that is absolutely true. No one is forced to be at the casino or a bar, so those places arent going to be sued. And they arent responsible for several thousand minor children whose parents basically entrust them to keep them safe.

Your argument has run its course.

As long as private schools have basketball most here will be fine. This is about me, myself and I. Not safety.

I would agree Todd is making a strawman argument if his sole purpose it to get local
sports open. But if the purpose is cocid safety, which ultimately should be,, then FHHSAHS is the strawman argument because your agenda includes you being able to straw pick what is safe and what is not such as freely going to the bar. Like this straw says me going g to the bar safe, kids having school not. Me going to a Biden celebration safe, high school dance not safe. All of it spreads covid but some just don't get it because of personal selfishness.
 
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I said nothing about dances or celebrations or private anything...with kids or not...that's not the discussion. Schools aren't going to be sued because you go to a rally or some kids go to a private dance. If you make a personal decision to do that, go for it.

We're talking about school and school sponsored events - to the tune of it's a recipe for outrageous legal problems if schools ignore the surging numbers and press on. The rest of everything you said is irrelevant.
 

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I said nothing about dances or celebrations or private anything...with kids or not...that's not the discussion. Schools aren't going to be sued because you go to a rally or some kids go to a private dance. If you make a personal decision to do that, go for it.

We're talking about school and school sponsored events - to the tune of it's a recipe for outrageous legal problems if schools ignore the surging numbers and press on. The rest of everything you said is irrelevant.
Why can't they seem to understand the difference between private and public?
 

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I said nothing about dances or celebrations or private anything...with kids or not...that's not the discussion. Schools aren't going to be sued because you go to a rally or some kids go to a private dance. If you make a personal decision to do that, go for it.

We're talking about school and school sponsored events - to the tune of it's a recipe for outrageous legal problems if schools ignore the surging numbers and press on. The rest of everything you said is irrelevant.

We are so worlds apart on this. We both end up just wasting time on the keyboard and we both know it. It's almost laughable for both of us I think.

As for lawuits, they all can be sued. Public and Private schools or business.

The No. 1 question I get from every single student-athlete is: Why can adults do all these activities but we can't? Not sure exactly what your answer is to those kids. From what I can tell it's because the school can be sued. smh. If you have a better answer for these kids to that question...be my guest.

But I will just sum up your logic with a flowchart.

#LOGIC >>> Metrics are too high >>> Public School children cannot go to the classroom >>> Private Schools, bars, casinos, colleges, political celebrations, etc. can be open because it's not the same >>> These things do spread the virus though >>> >>> return to #LOGIC

At your rate, public school children will never be back. So yea, they are extremely related.
 
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Why can't they seem to understand the difference between private and public?
Does COVID seem to understand the difference between private and public?

COVID FLOWCHART
#LOGIC >>> Metrics are too high >>> Public School children cannot go to the classroom >>> Private Schools, bars, casinos, colleges, political celebrations, etc. can be open because it's not the same >>> These things do spread the virus though >>> >>> return to #LOGIC
 
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Todd, looks like your wish is coming true... restaurants, bars and casinos are being reduced in capacity. If the trend continues, looks like we'll be completely shut down well before Christmas. Them you'll be able to answer their questions.
 

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Also...let me correct your flow chart. Metrics are too high>>>Kids are testing positive frequently and passing the virus around and to each other's families>>>school, which is run by the government is responsible for keeping kids safe>>>to keep kids safe they've stopped classes and sports>>>other government facilities such as City Hall, county buildings, and state offices are also closing down for the same reason>>>end of chart.
 

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Also...let me correct your flow chart. Metrics are too high>>>Kids are testing positive frequently and passing the virus around and to each other's families>>>school, which is run by the government is responsible for keeping kids safe>>>to keep kids safe they've stopped classes and sports>>>other government facilities such as City Hall, county buildings, and state offices are also closing down for the same reason>>>end of chart.
Except your flow chart does not reflect: colleges, bars, casinos, private schools, political events, etc. being open that also perpetuate the spread. You and I both know colleges should never have opened in the first place. Students away from home do not care, they go home on weekends and come back. Things like this are all about money over safety and the state/local health dept looks the other way. Shameful stuff man.

I got asked again today by one of my employees who is a senior volleyball player at FH. Why are other other activities permitted for adults but not us?

What is your answer to them? I can't tell.
 

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My answer to them would be this. "The school system is only able to make rules for those people under their governance. Students and staff whose safety they are charged with protecting. Due to the overwhelming rising number of cases the school system has opted to restrict activities under their watch. They do not have control over bars and casinos. However, MD is now limiting those businesses as well and starting to reduce capacity for them as well now that the numbers are rising everywhere. Since adults have made the decision to keep doing these risky activities, they are starting to lose those as well as the virus continues to spread. Keeping schools and athletics going in spite of the risks and increasing issues would be dangerous, if not legally reprehensible. Much like adults who still have to go to work when you have a snow day...should we make kids go to school and get buses out on the road in bad weather just because adults are still required to work regardless?"

You can use that verbatim if you like. Sums it all up pretty well.
 

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Frostburg State just announced they are going virtual for the rest of the semester, including finals. And University of Maryland has suspended all Athletics. It's all grinding to a halt again. The kids won't be asking you all these questions anymore, Todd. You'll be able to stop feeling obligated to answer them.
 
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uh oh, the cases are going up...
Their Answer: shut it all done for a month or two so we can this allover again in a few months.
it's not going away, it's going to be around for years and years, I guess life is supposed to stop for everyone.
btw my wife has it and hasn't left the bedroom in 5 days....
it is what it is, we can all catch it but we can't hide in a basement forever like Joe Biden.
I mean even he came out a few times to celebrate being the fake President Elect well at least for a few weeks....
 

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In May
Frostburg State just announced they are going virtual for the rest of the semester, including finals. And University of Maryland has suspended all Athletics. It's all grinding to a halt again. The kids won't be asking you all these questions anymore, Todd. You'll be able to stop feeling obligated to answer them.

Can't buy the comparison of snow days to COVID. That's like comparing the dangers of getting in an auto vs. COVID. As you have said...apples and oranges.

You are wrong about being obligated to answer questions. Because I have $5000 that says you and others like you will want school activities restricted/shut down all the way through June because someone can get COVID. In fact, yenz will still be advocating lockdown even next August even with a vaccine in place that can't be distributed fast enough or people refuse to take it. Mark it down this day Helmick said this. LOL and sad at the same time.

Enjoy the turket and trimmings with family everyone. Super spreader, schemder...as long as I get a belly full.
 

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uh oh, the cases are going up...
Their Answer: shut it all done for a month or two so we can this allover again in a few months.
it's not going away, it's going to be around for years and years, I guess life is supposed to stop for everyone.
btw my wife has it and hasn't left the bedroom in 5 days....
it is what it is, we can all catch it but we can't hide in a basement forever like Joe Biden.
I mean even he came out a few times to celebrate being the fake President Elect well at least for a few weeks....

Right on que here comes the deplorable from under his rock to grace us with idiocy...
 
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Right on que here comes the deplorable from under his rock to grace us with idiocy...
Proud to be a Deplorable, I mean an American that loves his Country unlike You
I like living life and i'm not going to hide from a virus just as I didn't hide from the flu or chicken pox
 
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