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You may not here from any Cumberland for awhile. They may be on Epstien watchWhen was the last time FH got a running clock put on them, let alone shut out?
Epstein didn't kill himselfYou may not here from any Cumberland for awhile. They may be on Epstien watch
Hahaha. Who was watching Epstein again? LolYou may not here from any Cumberland for awhile. They may be on Epstien watch
You are going to hear the kool aid drinkers come out in force to defend coach appel and his staff and dismiss anything negative...the reality is it doesn't happen often but when they get beat they really get beat!When was the last time FH got a running clock put on them, let alone shut out?
LMAO Watched it on Livestream. FH becomes first Cumberland school to have the clock put on them in a state sem-final! BTW, check the officials name that kept throwing phantom holding calls on Catoctin. FH may have slipped one of their alumni refs they use up here in on youWhen was the last time FH got a running clock put on them, let alone shut out?
I believe this is the 2nd time Ever...When was the last time FH got a running clock put on them, let alone shut out?
Guess I'll be a kook aid drinker. The scheme and gameplan could have been better, but this loss is squarely on the shoulders of the young men that played on the field. They played with no passion or drive, and were manhandled all night. Bad punts, snaps, and constant fumbles isnt on the coaching, and that on top of what I stated earlier is what lost this football gameYou are going to hear the kool aid drinkers come out in force to defend coach appel and his staff and dismiss anything negative...the reality is it doesn't happen often but when they get beat they really get beat!
2009 they beat the shit out of Martinsburg at the stadium. 2010 they went to death valley and lost 42-12I believe this is the 2nd time Ever...
Tonight and 2009 against Martinsburg
correct it was 2003 under lattimer2009 they beat the shit out of Martinsburg at the stadium. 2010 they went to death valley and lost 42-12
What in your opinion was the problem tonight? Why did this team not have passion or drive? Why were there more fumbles than any other game all season? Why were kickoffs completely misjudged and rolling around on the ground? Why were punts ten yards? Did they know coach is retiring and they were mad, or upset? Did they all of the sudden just not care about winning because next week is Dunbar and they knew their coach has never beaten Dunbar and they'd get beat, AGAIN, in the playoffs by Dunbar? I'm being very sincere, I'd love to know why you think this debacle happened?Guess I'll be a kook aid drinker. The scheme and gameplan could have been better, but this loss is squarely on the shoulders of the young men that played on the field. They played with no passion or drive, and were manhandled all night. Bad punts, snaps, and constant fumbles isnt on the coaching, and that on top of what I stated earlier is what lost this football game
Fumbles are a product of not executing. That ten yard punt, again not executing. Coaching deserves some blame, but certainly not a majority of it. I said back at the ECP game that this team seemed to be lacking in the heart department, but nobody believed me. I'm not sure why they lack that, but you couldnt have watched this game and came out thinking "well this team has heart"What in your opinion was the problem tonight? Why did this team not have passion or drive? Why were there more fumbles than any other game all season? Why were kickoffs completely misjudged and rolling around on the ground? Why were punts ten yards? Did they know coach is retiring and they were mad, or upset? Did they all of the sudden just not care about winning because next week is Dunbar and they knew their coach has never beaten Dunbar and they'd get beat, AGAIN, in the playoffs by Dunbar? I'm being very sincere, I'd love to know why you think this debacle happened?
Speaking of Dunbar you know they gotta be pissed, their gimme ring just got a lot tougher!
I agree with you completely, but it stills begs the question why. What is going on with these guys that they didn't have heart. Coach kept saying all year how proud he was of them so it didn't seem like he would say that if it was happening...yet it appears you are right.Fumbles are a product of not executing. That ten yard punt, again not executing. Coaching deserves some blame, but certainly not a majority of it. I said back at the ECP game that this team seemed to be lacking in the heart department, but nobody believed me. I'm not sure why they lack that, but you couldnt have watched this game and came out thinking "well this team has heart"
What's he supposed to say though? Is he supposed to come out and say that his kids have no heart. The question of why the kids seemingly had no heart tonight will never have an answerI agree with you completely, but it stills begs the question why. What is going on with these guys that they didn't have heart. Coach kept saying all year how proud he was of them so it didn't seem like he would say that if it was happening...yet it appears you are right.
I get hated on all the time for saying something like you just said, and I don't care. Somebody will say "I think the coaches know more than you do" or "did you play, did you coach". You are stating the obvious, but there will be those who still defend a decision that is inexcusable...did he think he could maybe trade in timeouts for a new car or something?Was at game and kids definitely quit out there and were manhandled.....but coach also quit....28-0 right b4 half with catoctin getting ball to start second half....fh started drive at catoctin 39 with1:19 and all three timeouts....3 running plays and no timeouts used....kinda thinking he Quit on his team....smh and b4 anyone says I’m a hater I will let u know I’m a diehard fh fan
that's exactly when I knew the game was over, down 28 and three running plays with timeouts and off to the lockerroom like hey we are done and ready to go home... I have seen it many times when Coaches try to keep the score down by running and giving up and it will never make sense to me.Was at game and kids definitely quit out there and were manhandled.....but coach also quit....28-0 right b4 half with catoctin getting ball to start second half....fh started drive at catoctin 39 with1:19 and all three timeouts....3 running plays and no timeouts used....kinda thinking he Quit on his team....smh and b4 anyone says I’m a hater I will let u know I’m a diehard fh fan
Yeah I remember both games. Lol 42-10 in 2010 at cobourn 42-14 at greenway in 2009.2009 they beat the shit out of Martinsburg at the stadium. 2010 they went to death valley and lost 42-12
How bad are you guys going to beat Cabell next week?Yeah I remember both games. Lol 42-10 in 2010 at cobourn 42-14 at greenway in 2009.
Lol have to get passed Parkersburg south. LolHow bad are you guys going to beat Cabell next week?
Was at game and kids definitely quit out there and were manhandled.....but coach also quit....28-0 right b4 half with catoctin getting ball to start second half....fh started drive at catoctin 39 with1:19 and all three timeouts....3 running plays and no timeouts used....kinda thinking he Quit on his team....smh and b4 anyone says I’m a hater I will let u know I’m a diehard fh fan
You are being respectful and that's cool, but we both know that won't be a problem, good luck!Lol have to get passed Parkersburg south. Lol
But don't you dare say that is a coaching problem!This is the same thing that happened with the Friendship game, there was no attempt to win in the second half.
The only other time I can remember FH doing that was the finals loss to Dunbar under Lattimer. Seemed like the whole game plan was more, let's try to lose by as little as possible by eating the clock as much as possible, in that one.that's exactly when I knew the game was over, down 28 and three running plays with timeouts and off to the lockerroom like hey we are done and ready to go home... I have seen it many times when Coaches try to keep the score down by running and giving up and it will never make sense to me.
The worst loss was 2003 41-2 Loss to Martinsburg at Greenway that same year in the 2nd round of 2A Playoffs they went to North Hagerstown and lost 33-13
True the Martinsburg loss wasn't a true shutout, but there is also sometimes an even worse stigma applied when all you managed to score was a safety. Something about seeing that two in the losing points column can make it worse than a goose egg. Don't know why, scoring any points is better than zero in my book.This was greater by not having scored.
Guess I'll be a kook aid drinker. The scheme and gameplan could have been better, but this loss is squarely on the shoulders of the young men that played on the field. They played with no passion or drive, and were manhandled all night. Bad punts, snaps, and constant fumbles isnt on the coaching, and that on top of what I stated earlier is what lost this football game
I would just echo this. It was bad from that first punt and just got worse.
That same scene played out in Keyser 7 or so yrs ago. Got down early and everything went haywire. I think a couple players quit after that game!!
that's exactly when I knew the game was over, down 28 and three running plays with timeouts and off to the lockerroom like hey we are done and ready to go home... I have seen it many times when Coaches try to keep the score down by running and giving up and it will never make sense to me.
I’m not being rude, it was bad from the first 3 and out on opening kickoff and never got any better. I have never seen a FH Line get manhandled like they did tonight. # 8 for catoctin was a animal on defense. They lined him at Nose guard, then sometimes at end. Seems he was in on almost every play.I would just echo this. It was bad from that first punt and just got worse.
You are a very very strong supporter of this coach and his staff, so when you say what you said I know I'm not imagining what we all saw. The question is why? Why would you do that? Did you really not think anybody would question taking three timeouts to the locker room? was there any consideration to taking a timeout after the second or third turnover and just talking about it, maybe stopping some momentum? Do you think these players truly gave up on the coach or did he give up on them?This was the general sentiment in the stands. It was basically like taking a knee. I am not a coach and I do not know what may have been going on with the players or what the coaches were thinking but the spirit at attempting to win was gone. Yeah, it was highly unlikely in hindsight that FH could have made a comeback but comebacks happen, if one tries. At that point at the end of the 1st half, the effort was over.
People said the same thing when New England lost to Philadelphia in the Super Bowl. You seen what happened the year after. The dynasty isn’t dead, as to quote Aaron Rodgers “ R E L A X” they were beat by a good team. On to next year.Catoctin with the kill shot. The death of FH football as we've known of it the last 7 years. I think what we watched with this team this year is what happens with many college dynasties over the years. They think because they have the FH on the side of their helmet they can just show up and win. The heart, pride and work ethic that built the teams of the last almost decade is not known by the players today. I didn't see any of those things tonight and because of the shit schedule they were never able to build those things as a team.