Why FH has been behind Alco in points all season through week 8. All of those big schools FH has been playing and the toughest schedule in little ole Class "D".
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I can't wait to see what all the experts have to say about this one! Excellent question.
Because Chestnut Ridge and Northern, you know two area teams who will play Allegany, but wont play Fort Hill have had nice seasons.
True Story. Dont see the truth on here often lol. Jk
To answer the question I believe because Allegany has played and beat winning teams....
Going into Homecoming, after week 9, Fort Hill will eclipse Allegany in points and be the higher seed I believe, I was looking at it a bit last night but didn't finish the calculations.
Besides, points don't tell you a thing about quality of competition per se. For example, Allegany received 12.7 points for beating Northern while Fort Hill received only 11.0 points for beating Sherando. Sherando would beat Northern by about 42 points or more. Northern only beat Smithsburg by 1 point, Sherando lost to Martinsburg by 7 points. Martinsburg would beat Smithsburg 88-0.
Besides, points don't tell you a thing about quality of competition per se. For example, Allegany received 12.7 points for beating Northern while Fort Hill received only 11.0 points for beating Sherando. Sherando would beat Northern by about 42 points or more. Northern only beat Smithsburg by 1 point, Sherando lost to Martinsburg by 7 points. Martinsburg would beat Smithsburg 88-0.
Northern is worth more points than Sherando. Chestnut Ridge is worth the same as South Hagerstown. Otherwise the schedules are pretty much identical. Although if FH beats Mountain Ridge while Alco beats winless Brunswick FH will take over the top spot. Brunswick not good for point totals which has already been factored in for FH. That changes next week. It didnt help FH that Sherando has lost 4 games against teams with a combined record of 32-1 as someone pointed out already.
But the point is definitely proving that weak schedules are the way to go if playoffs are the main focus. Just don't tell bigsavage or Boyz this.
But the point is definitely proving that weak schedules are the way to go if playoffs are the main focus. Just don't tell bigsavage or Boyz this.
It should also be noted that Reginald Lewis has the highest point total in 1A after huge wins over Benjamin Franklin, FAET, Blue Jamison, and National Academy.
The MPSSAA point system is not about the quality of the opponent. It's not about who you beat, but that you beat them. FH and Alco figured this out long ago which is why you see 60 point blow outs at games now.
Here is a list of teams the MPSSAA deems not as good as Northern Garrett based on the point system:
Suitland
Northwest
Calvert Hall
Gilman
Linganore
Westminster
Potomac
Frederick Douglass
River Hill
Middletown
Gwynn Park
Patuxent
Dunbar
What that means is that heading into Week 8 you got 12.77 points for beating Northern. All the other teams listed there (and many other teams) are worth less points for beating them. So yes...BEATING NORTHERN IS BETTER THAN BEATING SUITLAND. Someone please remind me again about scheduling better teams. To prove you belong in some state media poll or to put more fannies in the seats? C'mon man.
Blame the system. And blame it hard. Time to make the administrators get off their lazy political agenda rear ends and actually do something.
Here is a list of teams the MPSSAA deems not as good as Northern Garrett based on the point system:
Suitland
Northwest
Calvert Hall
Gilman
Linganore
Westminster
Potomac
Frederick Douglass
River Hill
Middletown
Gwynn Park
Patuxent
Dunbar
What that means is that heading into Week 8 you got 12.77 points for beating Northern. All the other teams listed there (and many other teams) are worth less points for beating them. So yes...BEATING NORTHERN IS BETTER THAN BEATING SUITLAND. Someone please remind me again about scheduling better teams. To prove you belong in some state media poll or to put more fannies in the seats? C'mon man.
Blame the system. And blame it hard. Time to make the administrators get off their lazy political agenda rear ends and actually do something.
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Lewis's head coach is the same guy who coached Douglass when they played Fort Hill in the championship games.
Interesting that Lewis beat Clear Spring 38-0, a team that Southern beat by twenty more points on Friday.
Holy crap I never thought of it that way but yep that is true. No wonder the schedules are what they are. Why play Linganore or Suitland if Northern is worth more?
Its funny how last year you guys were tooting your horn trying to show FH played the toughest schedule based off point totals.. And we tried to show y'all how point system is flawed... Now this year "weak schedules are the way to go" Bwahaha but just last year FH played the toughest schedule in the world based off points.. Now Alco got higher point total and they playing a weak schedule according to you guys... Lol shit is getting deep...
Lol now you guys are admitting point system is flawed bc Alco has a higher point total? But just last year FH played the toughest schedule in the world based off I believe eagleinsiders analysis of the mpssa point system... So which is it can you get a lot of points playing weak teams or is point system a true indicator of strength of schedule??? Did FH play a tough schedule last year based off points or nah? Tougher than some of those aforementioned teams that knock each other off? We pointed this phenomenon out last year and you guys weren't buying it.. Now you're using our argument out of convenience...
When I started employment with the state a wise man told me "you can't change the system so have to learn how to work within the system". So let's face the facts, we will not change the system from the Western Maryland message boards. Even if all the Western Maryland coaches stormed the gates
asking for change. So the coaches are learning to work with in the system. Not saying it is right or wrong but it is what we have. Until the system doesn't work for the school in the rest of the state or benefits Western Maryland they will not change it.
asking for change. So the coaches are learning to work with in the system. Not saying it is right or wrong but it is what we have. Until the system doesn't work for the school in the rest of the state or benefits Western Maryland they will not change it.
Where do you come up with this stuff like FH fans said they have the toughest schedule? Seriously? You are one dumbass mo fo with dementia. No one claimed that. That's stupid. The FH point totals last year were super high. And their point totals again this year will be super high after homecoming. If FH wins Homecoming they may have the highest point total in all of 2A as well. That wont mean their schedule was the toughest. Dah.
Read dude. We all know the point system is flawed. Do you think FH coaches are dumb. The schedule is what it currently is because they know. You are the one who doesn't get it. Just keep pounding that head into the brick wall dude. TD even pointed it out. Coaches at every school don't care about what you think, what puts fannies in the seats or what some media poll haters might think. This is the stupid system. WE ALL KNOW IT AND HAVE KNOWN IT!!!!!! So what exactly is it that you try to demonstrate here, that the schedules suck in Cumberland and 1A? No shit Sherlock.
Now let's everyone go find a Northern to play. Get it? We got it.
Read it again. The system rewards teams for winning games against lesser opponents. So stop telling FH to go get better opponents. That might be the dumbest high school schedule conclusion ever.
Read dude. We all know the point system is flawed. Do you think FH coaches are dumb. The schedule is what it currently is because they know. You are the one who doesn't get it. Just keep pounding that head into the brick wall dude. TD even pointed it out. Coaches at every school don't care about what you think, what puts fannies in the seats or what some media poll haters might think. This is the stupid system. WE ALL KNOW IT AND HAVE KNOWN IT!!!!!! So what exactly is it that you try to demonstrate here, that the schedules suck in Cumberland and 1A? No shit Sherlock.
Now let's everyone go find a Northern to play. Get it? We got it.
Read it again. The system rewards teams for winning games against lesser opponents. So stop telling FH to go get better opponents. That might be the dumbest high school schedule conclusion ever.
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3/4's of y'all are full of shit.. You're probably the main culprit... At least me and boyz have been consistent. One year y'all say one thing the next you say another when it fits your narrative... You can wade through the posts and find the one where everyone was stroking their ego over FH's strength of schedule based off of the point system if you want... Im not going to sit here and lip wrestle with you... "I know your type loud as a motor bike but wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight" lol there i go again with the Jay Z lyrics... You can cut it out with the tough tony calling me out my name talk, while you hide behind a computer screen.. Bc everyone that knows me knows if you met me in person you would be the first to hold the door open for me trying to buy me a cup of coffee...
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I'll just sit this right here..
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Different year, same stupid argument. So they don't like FH's schedule. Both have been asked by myself and others to name a 1A that plays a more difficult one......still waiting for an answer.
Maybe someone can pull up the post, I believe it done by eaglesinsider last year, that showed where FH's schedule was more difficult than any 1A, many 2A's and even some 3 and 4A's.
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Different year, same stupid argument. So they don't like FH's schedule. Both have been asked by myself and others to name a 1A that plays a more difficult one......still waiting for an answer.
Maybe someone can pull up the post, I believe it done by eaglesinsider last year, that showed where FH's schedule was more difficult than any 1A, many 2A's and even some 3 and 4A's.
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I'll sit the link right here. Anyone stroking their ego from their supposed SOS last year based off of a point system has no standing or credibility in trying to discredit the point system this year when it comes to strength of schedule just bc someone other than FH has a higher point total.. To be fair Eagleinsider used Calprep and this is mpssaa totals but the same principles apply... Like I said 3/4's of y'all are full of shit.. The main culprit being brian1974
https://marylandvarsity.forums.rivals.com/threads/1a-schools-by-2015-strength-of-schedule.4138/
https://marylandvarsity.forums.rivals.com/threads/1a-schools-by-2015-strength-of-schedule.4138/
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The point totals from year to year are just as fickle as the opponents themselves. Sherando was worth a lot more points last year and I believe South was too. You just cant judge from year to year, based on all the different variables. You can play the same schedule two years in a row and have a vastly different point total.
Playing teams who play in competitive conferences or schedules adds to that. South played FH well this year, tougher than Sherando. Unfortunately, they also play in what many consider the toughest region of any class in the state - 3A west. You're bound to have some losses.
We've already had the discussion ad nauseum about the schedule, most of us agree that it could be improved upon. But point totals don't always tell the whole story. Using JMT's point totals for week 10 - Fort Hill would be the number one seed in all of 1A, in the 2A south, 3A East and 3A North. The point system isn't flawed, it just is what it is.
Playing teams who play in competitive conferences or schedules adds to that. South played FH well this year, tougher than Sherando. Unfortunately, they also play in what many consider the toughest region of any class in the state - 3A west. You're bound to have some losses.
We've already had the discussion ad nauseum about the schedule, most of us agree that it could be improved upon. But point totals don't always tell the whole story. Using JMT's point totals for week 10 - Fort Hill would be the number one seed in all of 1A, in the 2A south, 3A East and 3A North. The point system isn't flawed, it just is what it is.
So why is it that you drill over and over that Alco and FH should upgrade the schedule to bigger power opponents when beating Northern is worth more than beating Potomac? Because I have to tell you that is not the smart move.
The point is that everyone relevant (coaches) at Alco and FH have known how the system works for a very long time. Anyone that wants to buck the system just isn't using common sense. I get a feeling that you buck the system in an attempt to satisfy your personal entertainment value watching games while demeaning the FH success by telling them 1A is not good enough. And you are not alone as many others complain about the 50+ point blowouts. However, those actually involved with the programs only care about winning championships. Yes, that is the goal...the only goal.
I've said this to you and many others over and over...GO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SYSTEM! Don't complain about Alco and FH living in it and using it as it was handed to them like everyone else around them does. That's the part you have never come to grips with and it's not an intelligent conclusion. Me personally, I would do anything to see Alco and FH upgrade the schedule, but realize the only way to do that is to change the system, not buck the system. Instead of using up time on a local message board, send those same rumblings to the MPSSAA. I have their emails if you cannot find them.
Whoever wins Homecoming will possess one of the highest point totals in the state. I believe most everyone knows this happens because the point system is flawed already including the people you are trying to prove it to.
And I know what the same reply will be, that it won't hurt to pick up Martinsburg and someone else like them. And that FH will never be left out in this point system. The key problem here is YOU DON'T KNOW THIS just because it has not happened in a long time. All it would have taken this year was for one other team to step up and post a 9-1 record out of the blue against a horrible schedule. Then Alco or FH is sweating the playoffs if they lose to just one bigger power. Yes, if FH lost to Martinsburg and Sherando, this could have left them out in this nightmare scenario when they are possibly the best team in 1A for the fourth time in a row. Some folks will never get it because it's been made clear that tougher regular season games are more important than the playoffs.
I must repeat again...I too am in favor of upgrading schedules. But not without trying to change the system. I truly believe that time is coming.
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"So why is it that you drill over and over that Alco and FH should upgrade the schedule to bigger power opponents when beating Northern is worth more than beating Potomac"
If I recall you're the one that wanted FH to play Good Counsel... Guess that stance has changed with the day also??? Anyway I didn't read all your post it was too long.. But did you answer my question? Does point system indicatate strength of schedule? Back in February you were one of the ones that thought so and kept repeating that FH played the toughest schedule.. But now lo and behold Allegany is leading in points you make the case that the point system is flawed so which is it?
Big Savage, if an error was made, the error was describing Fort Hill's schedule as the "toughest" as opposed to the "smartest." That's where the issue lies.
I would agree with that if that's what was said and being promoted... But if you click on the link you'll see several pushing that narrative... And when we brought up the same points that were used to discredit Allegany's SOS they weren't having it.. But if they want to now admit their error I can accept that.
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I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy and double standard to use point system to bolster your argument that FH plays a tough schedule but then when your cross town rival uses it you now all of a sudden the system is flawed when it comes to SOS..
Despite any objections, nobody can deny that the Fort Hill Schedulers and Decision Makers have masterfully played the game that is the Playoff Point System. And it is a game, and further, there is no shame in them masterfully playing the system, the schedule has been brilliant and has only worked because they've still won the games they've needed to win. Also, in the end, they are a 1A team trying to win a 1A State Championship, they should not have to be playing anyone other than who they have played. They, meaning the Coaches and Administrators and Schedulers, have done nothing but their duty to do what is best for the players, programs and the school. It has worked, they should not be criticized for doing what EVERYONE should see as their duty.
I'm not arguing that point... I think everyone is in agreement that FH has successfully played the system... But if your goal is to schedule weak opponents and use that to your advantage so be it... But don't schedule weak opponents and then parade around a point system touting how tough your schedule is... Then when someone else does it you try and discredit the very same point system you were touting your schedule with.. Seasoned lettuce are you understanding my point?
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Being a math geek, the short answer...this MPSSAA point system cannot be indicative of schedule strength when losing a game earns zero points. And just as well that playing a 3A school is only 2 points better than playing a 1A school.
And I'm sure that if FH wins Homecoming and posts the highest point totals that many FH fans will use that ammo to try and say FH plays a tough schedule. Same for Alco. But the logical fans know that both teams just played the system the smartest, which is something made clear that you don't want to see. And honestly, I don't either in the interest of competition. But I do understand and accept it. But I'm not going to continually rag on a local 1A team's schedule for not playing 3A and 4A powers. The kids achievements don't deserve criticism for the crappy system cards they are dealt.
And I'm sure that if FH wins Homecoming and posts the highest point totals that many FH fans will use that ammo to try and say FH plays a tough schedule. Same for Alco. But the logical fans know that both teams just played the system the smartest, which is something made clear that you don't want to see. And honestly, I don't either in the interest of competition. But I do understand and accept it. But I'm not going to continually rag on a local 1A team's schedule for not playing 3A and 4A powers. The kids achievements don't deserve criticism for the crappy system cards they are dealt.
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On a similar topic...I always post the point totals for 1A West late Saturday night at this same link:
http://www.nationalchamps.net/highschool/2016/
Also not calculated in these current points is the fact both Chestnut Ridge and Hollidaysburg have a game tonight because their Friday games were postponed due to flooding in PA.
Also worth noting is that the MPSSAA official totals have Alco and FH with one more point than I do. That is because the MPSSAA has calculated the Silver Oak schedule incorrectly. They credit Silver Oak with an extra win based on a scrimmage result. And I'm not going to correct them
http://www.nationalchamps.net/highschool/2016/
Also not calculated in these current points is the fact both Chestnut Ridge and Hollidaysburg have a game tonight because their Friday games were postponed due to flooding in PA.
Also worth noting is that the MPSSAA official totals have Alco and FH with one more point than I do. That is because the MPSSAA has calculated the Silver Oak schedule incorrectly. They credit Silver Oak with an extra win based on a scrimmage result. And I'm not going to correct them
Thanks for the answer... So just to be clear back in February when you and the others were using the point system to say FH played the toughest schedule you're now saying that was false and that the point system isn't a true indicator of SOS??? I just want to be clear because a lot of fuss was made back then... Also I understand fully that both FH and Alco are smart in playing the system.. I dont recall ever arguing otherwise... I think the point that I try to make that people miss is.. FH scheduling up is from a competition and challenge standpoint... This is just my opinion I think they could do both and still make the playoffs... Do they have to do it every year ? No But people know which class is going to be talented and which isn't.. Scheduling one powerhouse team this year to see where you're at wouldn't have hurt.. This is just my opinion.. No one has to accept just like i don't have to accept the opinion that area teams should schedule the 10 weakest opponents... the only argument you get from me is A) when someone tries to say FH plays a tough schedule or B) when someone makes a ton of excuses as to why the area schedules are so weak.. Those are the only times you get an argument from me... I once again agree that both schools are playing the system masterfully and if your goal is to schedule all weak opponents more power to you... I think there is a happy medium.. But you guys think not and that's fine.. There's no need to be rude or sling insults...
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Just curious if you have heard any rumblings about changing the system? People everywhere seem to be fed up. I know the people in Montgomery County are in a panic that an 8-2 Seneca Valley could get outpointed by a 7-3 Linganore should certain things fall into place. Unfortunately, it may take a team with a storied tradition, from a County with a lot of influence, getting screwed to make the change happen.
Well it's the toughest schedule based on the silly MPSSAA point system, yes.
But other systems or indicators that do give credit for playing teams that beat you are much better and if I recall (because I have not gone back to that post by eagleinsider) that was the system CalPreps who I believe uses a grading scale that takes into account even the teams you lose to. Those are much more legit strength of schedule formulas. In other words, teams like Douglass get zero points for losing to Wise with the MPSSAA. But at CalPreps they do get credit.
Maybe eagleinsider can chime in again and validate or correct me?
MESSAGE TO EVEYONE: state point totals are not a strength of schedule measure.
Please don't misinterpret my posts...I enjoy these discussions.
But other systems or indicators that do give credit for playing teams that beat you are much better and if I recall (because I have not gone back to that post by eagleinsider) that was the system CalPreps who I believe uses a grading scale that takes into account even the teams you lose to. Those are much more legit strength of schedule formulas. In other words, teams like Douglass get zero points for losing to Wise with the MPSSAA. But at CalPreps they do get credit.
Maybe eagleinsider can chime in again and validate or correct me?
MESSAGE TO EVEYONE: state point totals are not a strength of schedule measure.
Please don't misinterpret my posts...I enjoy these discussions.
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Strength of schedule is an interesting topic. There's a good discussion on the Sun boards about this topic here as well. http://talk.baltimoresun.com/topic/275270-state-poll-week-5/
The basic premise that I subscribe to, is that the points system as is, is not truly a measure of SOS. Not completely. When you get more points for beating Northern than you do for beating a 4 loss 3A team like South...it's not just about SOS. It could be about playing schools who play equal or lesser schedules - or do a better job at arranging schedules..or some variation of that. Is Northern as strong an opponent as South? Or Sherando? Moot, but I think most people would say no. But they are worth more points. That's not SOS.
That's not a cut on Northern or Alco or anyone...it's just a way to show that SOS is not just about points earned. I can't deny that Alco (currently) has more points than FH. And if they would defeat FH, they'd have a sh*t ton of points heading into the playoffs.
But FH is running a 2.6 SOS. That's damn low considering there are some privates out there with several losses who have an SOS number in the 50s and 60s. Alco has a -.1. Crazy low. On the other hand, Fairmont Heights, who we all discussed how tough a schedule they play, has an 18.5. But they have a 2-6 record and their points will probably keep them out of the playoffs.
Also, just to clarify...the link you posted was started by eaglesinsider who isnt even a Fort Hill guy. And out of about 40 responses, only one actual poster called it "the toughest schedule in 1A". And it was the 2015 schedule being discussed, not this year's.
The basic premise that I subscribe to, is that the points system as is, is not truly a measure of SOS. Not completely. When you get more points for beating Northern than you do for beating a 4 loss 3A team like South...it's not just about SOS. It could be about playing schools who play equal or lesser schedules - or do a better job at arranging schedules..or some variation of that. Is Northern as strong an opponent as South? Or Sherando? Moot, but I think most people would say no. But they are worth more points. That's not SOS.
That's not a cut on Northern or Alco or anyone...it's just a way to show that SOS is not just about points earned. I can't deny that Alco (currently) has more points than FH. And if they would defeat FH, they'd have a sh*t ton of points heading into the playoffs.
But FH is running a 2.6 SOS. That's damn low considering there are some privates out there with several losses who have an SOS number in the 50s and 60s. Alco has a -.1. Crazy low. On the other hand, Fairmont Heights, who we all discussed how tough a schedule they play, has an 18.5. But they have a 2-6 record and their points will probably keep them out of the playoffs.
Also, just to clarify...the link you posted was started by eaglesinsider who isnt even a Fort Hill guy. And out of about 40 responses, only one actual poster called it "the toughest schedule in 1A". And it was the 2015 schedule being discussed, not this year's.
Using the same CalPreps formula (which is actually very legit in my book) here are the SOS for 1A West schools:
Brunswick (9.0) - by far the toughest in 1A West
Fort Hill (2.6)
Allegany (-0.1)
Boonsboro (-4.2)
Southern (-4.8)
Northern (-10.4)
Smithsburg (-11.9)
Clear Spring (-12.4)
Hancock (-35.4)
Others of note:
Fairmont Heights (18.5) - the toughest schedule in all of 1A
Edmondson-Westside (9.5)
Surrattsville (2.3)
Cambridge (-4.2)
Havre de Grace (-5.0)
Reginald Lewis (-23.4)
Don't be surprised if Fairmont Heights wins the North region and winds up traveling back to Cumberland for the state semifinal as the #4 overall seed.
Brunswick (9.0) - by far the toughest in 1A West
Fort Hill (2.6)
Allegany (-0.1)
Boonsboro (-4.2)
Southern (-4.8)
Northern (-10.4)
Smithsburg (-11.9)
Clear Spring (-12.4)
Hancock (-35.4)
Others of note:
Fairmont Heights (18.5) - the toughest schedule in all of 1A
Edmondson-Westside (9.5)
Surrattsville (2.3)
Cambridge (-4.2)
Havre de Grace (-5.0)
Reginald Lewis (-23.4)
Don't be surprised if Fairmont Heights wins the North region and winds up traveling back to Cumberland for the state semifinal as the #4 overall seed.
I'll tell you something that will blow your mind. Just for fun, I sat down and developed a murderous, and I mean absolutely murderous fake schedule for Fort Hill. It had them playing the following teams:
1) Bridgeport (Defending WV AA Champion)
2) Wheeling Park (Defending WV AAA Champion)
3) Martinsburg (For Old Times Sake)
4) Keyser (Obvious)
5) Damascus (Defending MD 3A Champion)
6) Patuxent (Defending MD 2A Champion)
7) Walkersville (Defending MD 2A Runner Up by 1 Point)
8) Sherando (Obvious)
9) Mountain Ridge (Obvious)
10) Allegany (Obvious)
According to CalPreps, Fort Hill would go 7-3 against that schedule, with losses to Martinsburg (by 7), Damascus (by 4) and Walkersville (by 7). At the time, that would have given them 88 points for an average of 8.8 for the season. This would have placed them at # 1 in the Region ahead of Allegany's projected 8.5 average at # 2.
You could take it a step further, and make the schedule even harder. In theory, you would only need to eclipse Northern's projection of 71 points or a 7.1 average to make the playoffs. So you could take it a step further, lets say Keyser drops FH and FH replaces Keyser above with DeMatha. In that scenario now you are 6-4 with a big loss to DeMatha and you are down to 76 points or a 7.6 average.
You could keep Keyser and drop Mountain Ridge or say they dropped you, which they won't and replace Mountain Ridge with DeMatha, again a gauranteed loss. Now you are at 6-4 and you finish with 79 points or a 7.9 average and you actually at 6-4 leapfrog Boonsboro for the second spot behind Allegany.
I'm sure if you played with it you could make the playoffs at 5-5. Anyway, i realize these are just projections and that the reality of playing a murderous schedule like that where you have no recovery time from week to week may make meeting the projections difficult but who knows,
I do not advocate Fort Hill playing a schedule like that, certainly it is patently unfair to the kids. I also have zero problems with what they are doing now as I fully support what it best for the program and what is best is how things have panned out. It's just fun to look at the numbers.
1) Bridgeport (Defending WV AA Champion)
2) Wheeling Park (Defending WV AAA Champion)
3) Martinsburg (For Old Times Sake)
4) Keyser (Obvious)
5) Damascus (Defending MD 3A Champion)
6) Patuxent (Defending MD 2A Champion)
7) Walkersville (Defending MD 2A Runner Up by 1 Point)
8) Sherando (Obvious)
9) Mountain Ridge (Obvious)
10) Allegany (Obvious)
According to CalPreps, Fort Hill would go 7-3 against that schedule, with losses to Martinsburg (by 7), Damascus (by 4) and Walkersville (by 7). At the time, that would have given them 88 points for an average of 8.8 for the season. This would have placed them at # 1 in the Region ahead of Allegany's projected 8.5 average at # 2.
You could take it a step further, and make the schedule even harder. In theory, you would only need to eclipse Northern's projection of 71 points or a 7.1 average to make the playoffs. So you could take it a step further, lets say Keyser drops FH and FH replaces Keyser above with DeMatha. In that scenario now you are 6-4 with a big loss to DeMatha and you are down to 76 points or a 7.6 average.
You could keep Keyser and drop Mountain Ridge or say they dropped you, which they won't and replace Mountain Ridge with DeMatha, again a gauranteed loss. Now you are at 6-4 and you finish with 79 points or a 7.9 average and you actually at 6-4 leapfrog Boonsboro for the second spot behind Allegany.
I'm sure if you played with it you could make the playoffs at 5-5. Anyway, i realize these are just projections and that the reality of playing a murderous schedule like that where you have no recovery time from week to week may make meeting the projections difficult but who knows,
I do not advocate Fort Hill playing a schedule like that, certainly it is patently unfair to the kids. I also have zero problems with what they are doing now as I fully support what it best for the program and what is best is how things have panned out. It's just fun to look at the numbers.
"To be fair Eagleinsider used Calprep and this is mpssaa point totals but the same principals apply"
Really savage? The same principals apply? Ahhhh, no, Calpreps and MPSSAA point totals are not even in the same hemisphere. I just droped the mic out of the hideous nature of your reply. But thanks for posting a link that shows you can't even read.
So basically there is a cal preps SOS and the points used back in February were not indicative of SOSon eagleinsider post were
This is exactly what I've been saying.. I'm not advocating a schedule like that but I've said in the past a few big wins with a few losses still puts you over the top against a weak scheduled team...
This is exactly what I've been saying.. I'm not advocating a schedule like that but I've said in the past a few big wins with a few losses still puts you over the top against a weak scheduled team...
