MPSSAA offcial Final Point Totals and playoff match ups

[TDHelmick]

MPSSAA Week 9 final point totals are out. Here is the field:
https://www.mpssaa.org/assets/1/6/19_points_breakdown_Final.pdf

FIRST ROUND PLAYOFF MATCH UPS
1A WEST
#8 Southern Garrett at #1 Catoctin
#7 Brunswick at #2 Fort Hill
#6 Williamsport at #3 Northern Garrett
#5 Clear Spring at #4 Boonsboro

1A SOUTH
#8 Largo at #1 Loch Raven
#7 Surrattsville at #2 Randallstown
#6 Pikesville at #3 Gwynn Park
#5 Friendly at #4 Fairmont Heights

1A NORTH
#8 Douglass-Baltimore at #1 Dunbar
#7 Francis Scott Key at #2 Edmondson-Westside
#6 Forest Park at #3 Reginald Lewis
#5 Carver Vo-Tech at #4 Lake Clifton

1A EAST
#8 Havre de Grace at #1 Cambridge-South Dorchester
#7 Joppatowne at #2 Patterson Mill
#6 Kent County at #3 Perryville
#5 Fallston at #4 Colonel Richardson


CLASS 1A OVERALL TOP 8 SEEDS
1. Dunbar - 9.01 points
2. Catoctin - 7.67
3. Fort Hill - 7.44
4. Edmondson-Westside - 7.03
5. Northern Garrett - 7.00
6. Lock Raven - 6.89
7. Reginald Lewis - 6.48
8. Cambridge-South Dorchester - 6.46

 

[Waggle Pass]

So there was nothing to the Williamsport issue mentioned on the MOCO board?

 

[TDHelmick]

So there was nothing to the Williamsport issue mentioned on the MOCO board?

Funny, I got a call from MPSSAA points executive director Jason Bursick late last night. He wanted to know if I had heard a Green Street Academy score (they lost to Annapolis Area Christian 23-6). We talked for nearly an hour. Real good dude to have there. Anyway, I asked him about the Williamsport rumor and he said, "Oh boy, never heard of that one." So if it is true or not, it wasn't turned in to the MPSSAA.

Much more on that discussion later. Some really positive things, especially about school cooperation in sports and moving the football weekly calendar so kids that don't play in varsity games can play that week in JV games, not vice-versa.

 

[NG Huskies Fan]

So the pairings page on the MPSSAA site has the Williamsport @ Northern game being played at Potomac Valley any idea why or where that is?

 

[beall02]

So the pairings page on the MPSSAA site has the Williamsport @ Northern game being played at Potomac Valley any idea why or where that is?

Only place I could think they mean is Potomac State in Keyser. That would be sort of strange. Anyone else have any ideas?

 

[Wvu21795]

Only place I could think they mean is Potomac State in Keyser. That would be sort of strange. Anyone else have any ideas?

It was a misprint......game is 7pm at Northern Garrett

 

[bigdawgrefwmd]

MPSSAA Week 9 final point totals are out. Here is the field:
https://www.mpssaa.org/assets/1/6/19_points_breakdown_Final.pdf

FIRST ROUND PLAYOFF MATCH UPS
1A WEST
#8 Southern Garrett at #1 Catoctin
#7 Brunswick at #2 Fort Hill
#6 Williamsport at #3 Northern Garrett
#5 Clear Spring at #4 Boonsboro

1A SOUTH
#8 Largo at #1 Loch Raven
#7 Surrattsville at #2 Randallstown
#6 Pikesville at #3 Gwynn Park
#5 Friendly at #4 Fairmont Heights

1A NORTH
#8 Douglass-Baltimore at #1 Dunbar
#7 Francis Scott Key at #2 Edmondson-Westside
#6 Forest Park at #3 Reginald Lewis
#5 Carver Vo-Tech at #4 Lake Clifton

1A EAST
#8 Havre de Grace at #1 Cambridge-South Dorchester
#7 Joppatowne at #2 Patterson Mill
#6 Kent County at #3 Perryville
#5 Fallston at #4 Colonel Richardson


CLASS 1A OVERALL TOP 8 SEEDS
1. Dunbar - 9.01 points
2. Catoctin - 7.67
3. Fort Hill - 7.44
4. Edmondson-Westside - 7.03
5. Northern Garrett - 7.00
6. Lock Raven - 6.89
7. Reginald Lewis - 6.48
8. Cambridge-South Dorchester - 6.46

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again , it's so dumb that 3 of the Top 5 Seeds are from The West... smh
and 32 Teams in the Playoffs and Only 13 didn't make it
4 from the West and 3 from each other region. What's really dumb is having Catoctin in the 1A west as the Extra Team with Brunswick and then Francis Scott Key from the same County just up the road in The North. 3 Schools from Frederick County 1 in the North and 2 in the West. smh

 

[LinemenWinGames]

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again , it's so dumb that 3 of the Top 5 Seeds are from The West... smh
and 32 Teams in the Playoffs and Only 13 didn't make it
4 from the West and 3 from each other region. What's really dumb is having Catoctin in the 1A west as the Extra Team with Brunswick and then Francis Scott Key from the same County just up the road in The North. 3 Schools from Frederick County 1 in the North and 2 in the West. smh

FSK is in Carroll County.

 

[bigdawgrefwmd]

FSK is in Carroll County.

Wow Thank, I looked up Francis Scott Key and it said he was born in Frederick County and knew that the Mall was called that in Frederick. Weird that they would name a School after him in another County instead of Frederick. so then still it makes it worse as there is 2 Frederick County Schools in 1A which makes no sense to me but I guess it's no different than Havre De Grace being 2 to 2 1/2 hours from teams in their region and the state says they are trying to save money. I bet the Schools all lose so much money from losing a Home game and they complain and it goes back to the even worse system that we used to have before. lol

 

[TDHelmick]

By my projections...and I think they will turn out to be very accurate, here are what the THIRD ROUND of the 1A playoffs will look like:

Fairmont Heights at Dunbar
Gwynn Park at Catoctin
Patterson Mill at Fort Hill
Cambridge at Edmondson

OR

Gwynn Park at Dunbar
Patterson Mill at Catoctin
Cambridge at Fort Hill
Loch Raven at Edmondson

Also note...the playoff format has changed a little. If Fort Hill beats Brunswick, the Sentinels will play the winner of Northern vs. Williamsport regardless of what happens in the other games. So in other words, even if Williamsport would happen to upset Northern - they will not reseed. Williamsport would then travel to FH for the 2nd round. In the past, the highest seed always drew the lowest seed. This is no more. The winner of 1 vs. 8 will play the winner of 4 vs. 5.

 

[Wvu21795]

By my projections...and I think they will turn out to be very accurate, here are what the THIRD ROUND of the 1A playoffs will look like:

Fairmont Heights at Dunbar
Gwynn Park at Catoctin
Patterson Mill at Fort Hill
Cambridge at Edmondson

OR

Gwynn Park at Dunbar
Patterson Mill at Catoctin
Cambridge at Fort Hill
Loch Raven at Edmondson

Also note...the playoff format has changed a little. If Fort Hill beats Brunswick, the Sentinels will play the winner of Northern vs. Williamsport regardless of what happens in the other games. So in other words, even if Williamsport would happen to upset Northern - they will not reseed. Williamsport would then travel to FH for the 2nd round. In the past, the highest seed always drew the lowest seed. This is no more. The winner of 1 vs. 8 will play the winner of 4 vs. 5.

I think Catoctin hammers southern Garrett
FH destroys Brunswick
Boonsboro beats clear spring by at least 14
Williamsport beats northern Garrett. Upset on paper because of records but not really.....northern garrett has played a weak schedule and it shows in this game......Williamsport dominates both line of scrimmages......much bigger.

 

[PowerRamRight]

I think Catoctin hammers southern Garrett
FH destroys Brunswick
Boonsboro beats clear spring by at least 14
Williamsport beats northern Garrett. Upset on paper because of records but not really.....northern garrett has played a weak schedule and it shows in this game......Williamsport dominates both line of scrimmages......much bigger.

Not sure about Williamsport. Didn't do as well against the Ridge as Northern did. Maybe Beall or CrickRat can chime in since they saw both teams?

 

[cumbfanatic]

Boonsboro will hammer clear spring

 

[Wvu21795]

Not sure about Williamsport. Didn't do as well against the Ridge as Northern did. Maybe Beall or CrickRat can chime in since they saw both teams?

I watched the williamsport vs ridge game......williamsport had a lot of penalties....hats off to Mountain ridge players because they gave 110%, but that game should not have been as close as it was

 

[NG Huskies Fan]

Northern had like the 5th most bonus points in 1A this year, believe it or not. A lot of teams had down years (Alco, MR, Southern, Grafton,Tucker). I think their schedule is fine, they're adding FH next year, I don't think they can make it any tougher, or they'll risk scheduling themselves out of the playoffs some years, they're a very small 1A school, I think they're playing a schedule that they can be competitive with. They played 5 regional games, Frankfort which is similar in size and won 7 or 8 games, Moorefield is going to make the WV A playoffs, Tucker was the only dud this year, but they are rebuilding and couldn't even finish the game against Southern. Grafton is typically a better WV AA school as well, also having a down year for them. What hurt the Huskies was they didn't play (or defeat) any 2A schools or larger like Catoctin and FH did, that is the difference in the region this year. Granted I do think FH and Catoctin are better than Northern, but that was the difference in the points.

 

[2Panther]

Regardless of who anyone played (see above), this new playoff system is without a doubt the dumbest thing that I have seen in years. In 1A there are 13 teams with LOSING records in the playoffs. That is close to being 1/2 of the playoff teams. What a joke! What kind of message does that send? The old playoff system was far from perfect but this is by far worse. This system is Socialism meets Football....Doesn't matter if you work hard and succeed because you will make the "playoffs"! Unbelievable, what else should one expect in Maryland.

 

[bigdawgrefwmd]

Northern Played Exactly Who they were Supposed to Play and Schools that are much bigger than them.
Northern lost by 7 to 8-1 Frankfort Team.
They beat 7 Seed Brunswick
They Beat their Rival 8 Seed Southern
They beat 5 Seed Clear Spring
They Beat Mountain Ridge & Allegany 2 Schools with clearly much larger enrollment. it's not their fault these teams were down.
They beat a 6-4 Moorefield Team that just Beat The #1 Team in WV Class A 35-0

Northern Will Beat Williamsport By the Score of Say 34-14

Phil Carr and Those Kids from Northern might just be the Second Best Team in the 1A West
FH should play them in the 2nd round and I think by time the Playoffs are over You will say Northern was second best to Only FH in the West
I STILL DON'T BELIEVE IN CATOCTIN FROM THE 2 GAME I SEEN

 

[FHHSAHS]

Regardless of who anyone played (see above), this new playoff system is without a doubt the dumbest thing that I have seen in years. In 1A there are 13 teams with LOSING records in the playoffs. That is close to being 1/2 of the playoff teams. What a joke! What kind of message does that send? The old playoff system was far from perfect but this is by far worse. This system is Socialism meets Football....Doesn't matter if you work hard and succeed because you will make the "playoffs"! Unbelievable, what else should one expect in Maryland.

I do think its weird seeing teams with significant losing records in the playoffs. I guess my question is, were there any teams with winning records that were left out? I think that was the biggest thing that was problematic before.

The whole meat of the problem however is this: the regions mean nothing UNTIL the playoffs. Conferences be damned, they should not take precedence over the regional format. I dont care that certain conferences and or counties dictate teams should play each other within the county of conference....those conferences mean nothing to the playoffs. Have conferences or have regions. And let the MPSSAA enforce one or the other. But the bottom line, and what will always continue to make this whole playoff thing a joke, is that the state governing body says that the regions are what matter for post-season play, but do nothing to ensure the regions have a clear-cut top number of teams by not enforcing any sort of regional play during the regular season.

So instead of making it VERY easy and requiring a minimum number of regional in-classification regular season games to qualify for the playoffs, they have a cockamamie system that tries to catch up at week 10 on the fact that (especially in 1A) teams dont play the teams in their regions. We wouldn't need to have all this switching around and so forth if say Fort Hill and Catoctin had both already played each other in the regular season and 4 or 5 other regional games. 6 regional games and 3 out of conference games. You go 6-0 in the region, you're number 1. Doesnt matter if you lose to Martinsburg, Cathedral Prep, and Dematha for the other 3 games in the regular season.

It's very very very very very easy to make the playoff system better in the state. Enforce regional play, and stop letting conferences take precedence. Problem solved.

 

[bigdawgrefwmd]

1 Dunbar (N)
2 Catoctin (W)
3 Fort Hill (W)
4 Edmondson (N)
5 Northern (W)
6 Loch Raven (S)
7 Reginald F Lewis (N)
8 Cambridge (E)
9 Randalstown (S)
10 Patterson Mill (E)
11 Lake Clifton (N)
12 Gwynn Park (S)
13 Fairmont Heights (S)
14 Carver (N)
15 Perryville (E)
16 Boonsboro (W)

if seeded 1 thru 16

16 Boonsboro at 1 Dunbar 1HR 15 Min
15 Perryville at 2 Catoctin 1 HR 49 Min
14 Carver at 3 Fort Hill 2 HR 11 Min
13 Fairmont Heights at 4 Edmonson 50 Min
12 Gwynn Park at 5 Northern 3 HR
11 Lake Clifton at 6 Loch Raven 16 Min
10 Patterson Mill at 7 Reginald F Lewis 35 Min
9 Randallstown at 8 Cambridge S.D. 1 Hr 45 Min

32 Teams out of 45 in the Playoffs, what in the hell were they thinking other than Socialism???????????
Let's Give them all a Trophy and not even play Playoffs

81 Minute Average Per These 8 Games with 2 Long Trips Included.
Yet in the Poorest State West Virginia they can travel 4-5 & 6 Hours
1 or 2 times each in the playoffs. smh

This was about Money, The State thinks they will make more and the Schools will actually lose more.

Fort Hill Would have played Home Game vs Baltimore Carver
Home Game vs Winner of Loch Raven vs Lake Clifton
Away Game at Catoctin
State Championship Against Dunbar

instead we are getting 3 Home Games that are bad but will make the MPSSAA More Money because people are dumb enough to go watch 40-50 point blowouts 3 weeks in a row.

Now We Get
Home Game vs Brunswick
Home Game vs Northern
Home Game vs Winner of Loch Raven vs Lake Clifton
Away Game at Catoctin
State Championship Against Dunbar

I mean seriously it's not as bad this season as it will be most years but I sure don't want to see 2-7 & 3-6 football teams in the playoffs in cold weather, Thanks but no Thanks.
I will get to stay home in the warm and listen to 3 Blowouts and then Tune in to The Station from Catoctin that will carry the game live video stream in week 4 of the playoffs and watch FH beat Catoctin by 4-5 TD's and then make 1 Playoff Trip to Annapolis

 

[Wvu21795]

Northern Played Exactly Who they were Supposed to Play and Schools that are much bigger than them.
Northern lost by 7 to 8-1 Frankfort Team.
They beat 7 Seed Brunswick
They Beat their Rival 8 Seed Southern
They beat 5 Seed Clear Spring
They Beat Mountain Ridge & Allegany 2 Schools with clearly much larger enrollment. it's not their fault these teams were down.
They beat a 6-4 Moorefield Team that just Beat The #1 Team in WV Class A 35-0

Northern Will Beat Williamsport By the Score of Say 34-14

Phil Carr and Those Kids from Northern might just be the Second Best Team in the 1A West
FH should play them in the 2nd round and I think by time the Playoffs are over You will say Northern was second best to Only FH in the West
I STILL DON'T BELIEVE IN CATOCTIN FROM THE 2 GAME I SEEN

Not to offend you but Northern is not close to being the 2nd team in 1A west.
Northern will have no answer to williamsport D line size, and speed in skill positions. I say williamsport wins 28 -21.

After the west playoffs playout... this is how it should look like:

1. Fort hill by a mile
2. Catoctin
3. Boonsboro
4. Williamsport
5. Northern Garrett
6. Clear Spring
Etc
Etc

 

[Wvu21795]

It doesnt matter anyway......clearly FH and Catoctin are top 2 teams.......

 

[otnorot]

I do think its weird seeing teams with significant losing records in the playoffs. I guess my question is, were there any teams with winning records that were left out? I think that was the biggest thing that was problematic before.

I don't think there were any teams with winning records that missed the playoffs (in any class), and only a few 4-5 teams missed out.

FWIW based on MaxPreps ratings, the three teams outside the top 32 in Class 1A that made the playoffs were Colonel Richardson (#33), Southern Garrett (#36) and Clear Spring (#37), two of whom had winning records against weak schedules and got decent seeds, while the top 32 teams that missed out were Mountain Ridge (#20), Allegany (#27) and McDonough (#30), all of whom had poor records against tougher schedules. You see the same pattern in other classes. It's not a huge deal since none of these teams would do much in the playoffs, but if they really wanted the 32 best teams in each class it would probably mean increasing the number of teams with losing records.

 

[TDHelmick]

I've debated this before so just to say again...If we go back to the old system we play 10 regular season games. FH and Alco will add a Pittsburgh City team or Capital Christian. Catoctin will add Hancock. Dunbar will add Benjamin Franklin, South Hagerstown will refuse to play good teams, etc. In other words...blow outs with zero ramifications. How is that different from the potential blow outs we have this first round of the playoffs now? It's not.

I don't look at this first round of the playoffs as a playoff game at all. I see it as a 10th regular season game WHERE YOU ARE NOW MANDATED TO PLAY SOMEONE IN YOUR REGION who is not in last place. And it does have major ramifications. This new playoff system is way, way better than what we had.

If we had the old system, Rising Sun with one loss doesn't get in. A huge handful of 3 loss teams don't get in like Walkersville, Urbana, Oakland Mills, Kent Island, etc. Some might say oh well that's the way it works. No, what that does is tell those schools to drop anyone tough on their schedule and go get a sure win. It was the exact reason Kent Island told FH never again. Did the new system stop that type of thought process...yes to a degree it absolutely did.

Sure, coaches are still concerned about home field in the playoffs now. But that is a far cry from being concerned about just getting in the playoffs. Watch these next few years as schedules get better.

Those that complain never have anything to say about an 0-22 team getting in the basketball playoffs. The answer is always the same, basketball is different. No, it is not different. Those people are just used to things always being the same.

Is this new playoff system the perfect answer? Nope. But it's so much better than what we had. Like I told coaches, stop beating your head against the wall with dumping regions, forcing region play, going to a 1-16 format. The people in charge have voted it down 50 times. The people in charge almost unanimously voted this system in thank god.

If you think the 1-16 format is great, enjoy not watching the two best teams in this area not play each other (see Keyser and FH schedules).

 

[PowerRamRight]

I've debated this before so just to say again...If we go back to the old system we play 10 regular season games. FH and Alco will add a Pittsburgh City team or Capital Christian. Catoctin will add Hancock. Dunbar will add Benjamin Franklin, South Hagerstown will refuse to play good teams, etc. In other words...blow outs with zero ramifications. How is that different from the potential blow outs we have this first round of the playoffs now? It's not.

I don't look at this first round of the playoffs as a playoff game at all. I see it as a 10th regular season game WHERE YOU ARE NOW MANDATED TO PLAY SOMEONE IN YOUR REGION who is not in last place. And it does have major ramifications. This new playoff system is way, way better than what we had.

If we had the old system, Rising Sun with one loss doesn't get in. A huge handful of 3 loss teams don't get in like Walkersville, Urbana, Oakland Mills, Kent Island, etc. Some might say oh well that's the way it works. No, what that does is tell those schools to drop anyone tough on their schedule and go get a sure win. It was the exact reason Kent Island told FH never again. Did the new system stop that type of thought process...yes to a degree it absolutely did.

Sure, coaches are still concerned about home field in the playoffs now. But that is a far cry from being concerned about just getting in the playoffs. Watch these next few years as schedules get better.

Those that complain never have anything to say about an 0-22 team getting in the basketball playoffs. The answer is always the same, basketball is different. No, it is not different. Those people are just used to things always being the same.

Is this new playoff system the perfect answer? Nope. But it's so much better than what we had. Like I told coaches, stop beating your head against the wall with dumping regions, forcing region play, going to a 1-16 format. The people in charge have voted it down 50 times. The people in charge almost unanimously voted this system in thank god.

If you think the 1-16 format is great, enjoy not watching the two best teams in this area not play each other (see Keyser and FH schedules).

A good indicator will be how many #5-8 seeds make it to the second round across the 16 region brackets. And then also do any make it to the quarterfinals. I like the new set-up.

 

[OneRing]

I see it as a 10th regular season game WHERE YOU ARE NOW MANDATED TO PLAY SOMEONE IN YOUR REGION
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But it's a playoff game where if you lose you go home... A 9-0 team with the most points in a class still goes home if it loses the 10th game. That's not a regular seaons game.

No, what that does is tell those schools to drop anyone tough on their schedule and go get a sure win.
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And under the new system they will drop anyone tough on their schedule to get a sure win to guarantee more home playoff games. Sure Rising Sun makes the playoffs now, but it has to play on the road every game. That's the next movement of the goalposts.

 

[TDHelmick]

I see it as a 10th regular season game WHERE YOU ARE NOW MANDATED TO PLAY SOMEONE IN YOUR REGION
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But it's a playoff game where if you lose you go home... A 9-0 team with the most points in a class still goes home if it loses the 10th game. That's not a regular seaons game.

No, what that does is tell those schools to drop anyone tough on their schedule and go get a sure win.
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And under the new system they will drop anyone tough on their schedule to get a sure win to guarantee more home playoff games. Sure Rising Sun makes the playoffs now, but it has to play on the road every game. That's the next movement of the goalposts.

I do respect your points of view. In fact, these were arguments bought up by people when proposing this new format.

Granted you lose in the first round of the playoffs you go home. First, if you are a seed 5-8 you were turning in your uniform after Week 10 anyway. Second, if we have a true regional set up then teams must play each other in the regular season and the losers stay home from the playoffs. It may have happened in Week 2 or 5, but a playoff game nonetheless.

And here is what's important about that. The MPSSAA could not enforce mandatory regional play. It was voted on and tossed out many times. What's happening in the first round of the playoffs now should have happened during the regular season. So in essence, the MPSSAA did mandate regional play. It just had to take an extra round of mandatory games in the regional playoffs to do it.

As for your home field argument...absolutely coaches still see this. Coaches at FH are upset because if they had played another bad team instead of Cathedral Prep, they would be at least the No. 2 seed and home for the playoffs every game. Guess what, then Catoctin doesn't need to play Walkersville and Dunbar doesn't need to play Mervo and nobody needs to play FH and we can all continue to go watch Capital Christian, Silver Oak and MATHS at Greenway. Time to at least try to alter that formula.

Again...West Virginia has a 1-16 format. Teams still schedule for home field advantage. There is no removing that thought process outside of mandating teams play each other. Maryland has now done that at least for the 10th week.

 

[hbpass2]

By my projections...and I think they will turn out to be very accurate, here are what the THIRD ROUND of the 1A playoffs will look like:

Fairmont Heights at Dunbar
Gwynn Park at Catoctin
Patterson Mill at Fort Hill
Cambridge at Edmondson

OR

Gwynn Park at Dunbar
Patterson Mill at Catoctin
Cambridge at Fort Hill
Loch Raven at Edmondson

Also note...the playoff format has changed a little. If Fort Hill beats Brunswick, the Sentinels will play the winner of Northern vs. Williamsport regardless of what happens in the other games. So in other words, even if Williamsport would happen to upset Northern - they will not reseed. Williamsport would then travel to FH for the 2nd round. In the past, the highest seed always drew the lowest seed. This is no more. The winner of 1 vs. 8 will play the winner of 4 vs. 5.

Will they keep the theory of 3-6 winner playing the 2-7 winner matchup throughout the playoffs or that just a regional playoff thing? Say catoctin gets upset in the quarterfinals and FH wins. Do they still have to play the team that beat catoctin or would it then reseeded?

 

[RedPride97]

Not to offend you but Northern is not close to being the 2nd team in 1A west.
Northern will have no answer to williamsport D line size, and speed in skill positions. I say williamsport wins 28 -21.

After the west playoffs playout... this is how it should look like:

1. Fort hill by a mile
2. Catoctin
3. Boonsboro
4. Williamsport
5. Northern Garrett
6. Clear Spring
Etc
Etc

I don't believe northern is the 2nd best in 1A west either. But playing at home i believe they will beat williamsport by a score maybe 2 scores

 

[MCsoccerplex]

This could be the best Northern team in quite some time.

I would take Northern over Williamsport by a touchdown or two under typical fall conditions, but I will add another one in the 20+ degree weather the Wildcats will face on Friday night.

 

[TDHelmick]

Not to offend you but Northern is not close to being the 2nd team in 1A west.
Northern will have no answer to williamsport D line size, and speed in skill positions. I say williamsport wins 28 -21.

After the west playoffs playout... this is how it should look like:

1. Fort hill by a mile
2. Catoctin
3. Boonsboro
4. Williamsport
5. Northern Garrett
6. Clear Spring
Etc
Etc

South Hagerstown covered the 31 point spread on Williamsport BTW. Not that CalPreps is a super prognosticator or anything. I have not seen Williamsport play yet, but based on their schedule I can't buy them right now. Their best victories have been over a struggling Mountain Ridge and North Hagerstown and those were real tight games. Everyone else has beaten them soundly. I have to go with Northern in this one.

I will stick with CalPreps and Northern (-15). And that's on a neutral field.

 

[Wvu21795]

South Hagerstown covered the 31 point spread on Williamsport BTW. Not that CalPreps is a super prognosticator or anything. I have not seen Williamsport play yet, but based on their schedule I can't buy them right now. Their best victories have been over a struggling Mountain Ridge and North Hagerstown and those were real tight games. Everyone else has beaten them soundly. I have to go with Northern in this one.

I will stick with CalPreps and Northern (-15). And that's on a neutral field.

You could be right.....I'm just not sold on Northern right now.....maybe after the game I will be?
Hope both teams play great and no kids get hurt.

 

[bigdawgrefwmd]

If Northern had Williamsport schedule they would have been very lucky to win 5 games! Besides Northern scoring first the game was never in question after williamsport went up 8-6. We gave a last TD but really should have been 21-6 if Williamsport would have just ran the ball.

Hey they went on the Road and Beat Northern 21-14 but my lord their schedule isn't strong at all as it had 2... TWO DECENT TEAMS!! Congrats on The Big Win Tonight for that Williamsport Team.

Williamsport
Losses to
Manchester Valley 21-9
Boonsboro 35-14
Catoctin 49-6
South Hagerstown 48-6
Wins against
Mountain ridge 27-23
North Hagerstown 47-42
Hancock 68-0
St. James 39-14
Smithsburg 28-7

so I'm confused what You mean by Scheduling??
Manchester Valley is not any good. but they lost to them
Boonsboro is not any good 6-4 playing a horrible schedule.
They didn't beat any Teams with a Winning Record until Tonight a 21-14 upset at Northern
They Lost to two Decent Teams in South Hagerstown and Catoctin both by BLOWOUTS
Northern Beat Allegany, Brunswick and Moorefield
and lost to 8-2 Frankfort 28-21
Frankfort is a few TD's better than anyone that Williampsort beat.
I'm really confused by all this hype by these Teams from Washington/Frederick Counties

West Final 2018 FH 55 Catoctin 6
2016 Week 1 FH 73 Brunswick 0
2016 Week 7 FH 27 S. Hagerstown 13
2015 Week 7 FH 47 S. Hagerstown 26
2014 Week 4 FH 46 N. Hagerstown 8
2013 West Region Semi FH 46 Manchester Valley 7
2012 FH Lost to N. Hagerstown 54-16 in regular season and in playoffs 46-42 to Brunswick in Region Final FH was 9-3 that season and not very good but still went to region final.
2011 West Region Semi FH 49 Brunswick 27
2011 West Region final FH 26 Boonsboro 7
2010 Region semi FH 42 Smithsburg 6
2009 Week 8 FH 12 Thomas Johnson 0
2009 Region Semi FH 45 Smithsburg 0
2008 Region Semi FH 35 Boonsboro 0
2007 Region semi FH 45 Smithsburg 0
2004 2A West Semi FH 57 Walkersville 14
2003 Week 1 FH 47 Boonsboro 7
Region Semi 2A West N. Hagerstown 33 FH 13
2002 Week 1 FH 35 Boonsboro 6

FH is 15-3 VS Washington & Frederick County in The Past 20 Years....
All-Time Records VS These Teams
FH is 4-0 vs Boonsboro
FH is 3-1 VS Brunswick
FH is 1-0 VS Catoctin
FH is 22-3-1 VS Frederick
FH is 36-6-1 VS North Hagerstown
FH is 3-0 VS Smithsburg
FH is 6-4 VS Thomas Johnson
FH is 28-6 VS South Hagerstown
FH is 1-1 VS Walkersville

FH Has Never Played Williamsport but that is because they are always terrible

They move back to 1A and this is from an Article earlier in the year
The schedule is much less daunting. Century, Liberty, Allegany and Frederick have been dropped in favor of Smithsburg, Hancock and Mountain Ridge.

I just hope with this new playoff format that we get to see a few more of these games over the years because I believe the Team West of sidling hill Will win 9 out of every 10 match-ups.