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Coolidge vs Fort Hill

For being a public school with under 800 students they are not afraid to play teams, I respect that. They opened up against Freedom I believe. i don’t know anything else about them. My guess would be FH by 3 touchdowns
 
The players must never under estimate but as a fans we can. I watched film and FH should mercy rule them. Coolidge should not even score. I watched the game against Suitland and wow, Suitland must have fallen quite a bit from where they were in 2017 and 2018. Suitland won 20-6. Coolidge would not have scored without being set up on the opening KO by a Suitland short kick and poor coverage leading to a return deep into Suitland territory. If FH does not score on every drive with the starting team it will be because of a mishap like a fumble. I do not see Coolidge being able to defend against the run/WingT. Coolidge is fast on defense but they will over pursue. Suitland lineman did not attack Coolidge like FH will. Coolidge will throw the ball so that should be the silver-lining in this game. The secondary might get some work if the FH pass rush does not get tot he QB first. If Coolidge punts often, FH should be able to block one of those. Coolidge is speed but little else in my opinion after watching that game.
 
Coolidge's enrollment has been increasing rapidly since the school was renovated a few years ago, they had over 400 freshmen last year. The connection between school size and football quality in the DCIAA is pretty limited though. They have been stuck in the lower division of the DCIAA, which is a very weak league, since they have been alternating championships with Bell and you have to win two years in a row to advance to the upper division. Looks like they are upgrading their non-conference schedule to compensate.

Looking at MaxPreps they graduated their starting QB, top RB, and top WR from last season. Clearly their offense has not got going yet this season.
 
Well that's 3 hours of my life I'll never get back again. Just really bad offensive football by both teams. I'm guessing like 11 fumbles on the carpet. 30 penalties. As someone next to me mentioned, the entire script was FH fumble the snap then Coolidge delay of game and a hold. This game was so hard to watch. Seemed like it would never end.

FH has a massive problem fumbling every snap. Can't remember the last time I've seen that many bad exchanges. It happened on most every single drive, sometimes more than once.
 
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What was the whole “everyone needs to be seated or you’ll be escorted out” announcement I heard? What’s that about?
 
What was the whole “everyone needs to be seated or you’ll be escorted out” announcement I heard? What’s that about?
There was a fight between girls right outside the front of the stadium and then another in the bathroom on the home side. Something like 3 girls were arrested. Additional police had to come to the stadium. They aren't letting people back in the game.
 
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FH is like anyone else early in the year. Hell in 2018 they were sloppy the first 2-3 weeks. Plus like 2018 it was wet Friday nite. We all know how 2018 ended. Sharp! This team is likely to do the same.
You are so right. Won't mention any names but there have been numerous starters over the last several years that due to an injury or just plain not producing were replaced and a lot of us wondered by the replacement was ever on the bench in the first place. Some kids practice way better than they play, nothing wrong with it but you just got to figure out who those are and sometimes it takes a bit of time. The only thing I'll add is there has been a lot of talk, again, about throwing the ball around a little more. I'm all for the five - ten yard easy passes that are more like runs. Personally I think there's nobody in 1a that FH needs to be able to throw the ball around to beat. If Dunbar was in 1A then yes, I'd say without a passing game they are just too good to be one dimensional against. I wouldn't waste much time in practice on developing a passing game when handing the ball off or holding onto it seems a lot more important at this point.
 
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FH is like anyone else early in the year. Hell in 2018 they were sloppy the first 2-3 weeks. Plus like 2018 it was wet Friday nite. We all know how 2018 ended. Sharp! This team is likely to do the same.
This 2023 schedule is the most difficult in a very, very long time. Week 5-9 is a grind stone every single week.
 
This 2023 schedule is the most difficult in a very, very long time. Week 5-9 is a grind stone every single week.
It will help the FH youth grow up in a hurry. Will toughen them up as well. As long as everyone makes the playoffs, I'm a fan of a tougher regular season schedule, although you explained last year why most teams don't do it.
 
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You are so right. Won't mention any names but there have been numerous starters over the last several years that due to an injury or just plain not producing were replaced and a lot of us wondered by the replacement was ever on the bench in the first place. Some kids practice way better than they play, nothing wrong with it but you just got to figure out who those are and sometimes it takes a bit of time. The only thing I'll add is there has been a lot of talk, again, about throwing the ball around a little more. I'm all for the five - ten yard easy passes that are more like runs. Personally I think there's nobody in 1a that FH needs to be able to throw the ball around to beat. If Dunbar was in 1A then yes, I'd say without a passing game they are just too good to be one dimensional against. I wouldn't waste much time in practice on developing a passing game when handing the ball off or holding onto it seems a lot more important at this point.
 
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FH has a tough schedule; as mentioned, the last half is a monster. However, even with several losses (unless it's due to lots of injuries to key personnel) FH will be fine in the playoffs.

No one (as of yet, from what I've seen) in 1A is tougher than some of these schools on the schedule. But Alco and MR are both to be reckoned with...I see both of them being good games with FH. I'm told Brunswick should be pretty tough this year as well, we'll see if that is per Allegany County standards or Frederick County standards of 'toughness.'

I'm all about another all Allegany County final honestly. And I think it is once again most likely.
 
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FH has a tough schedule; as mentioned, the last half is a monster. However, even with several losses (unless it's due to lots of injuries to key personnel) FH will be fine in the playoffs.

No one (as of yet, from what I've seen) in 1A is tougher than some of these schools on the schedule. But Alco and MR are both to be reckoned with...I see both of them being good games with FH. I'm told Brunswick should be pretty tough this year as well, we'll see if that is per Allegany County standards or Frederick County standards of 'toughness.'

I'm all about another all Allegany County final honestly. And I think it is once again most likely.
I wonder how Frederick County toughness standards were measured when Catoctin took FH to the woodshed 41-0 in 2019? I witnessed a "tough" team from Allegany County get hit in the mouth that night and fold up like a delicious queso topped California burrito from Rio Grande. Let us not forget that shellacking, lest we be destined to repeat.
 
I wonder how Frederick County toughness standards were measured when Catoctin took FH to the woodshed 41-0 in 2019? I witnessed a "tough" team from Allegany County get hit in the mouth that night and fold up like a delicious queso topped California burrito from Rio Grande. Let us not forget that shellacking, lest we be destined to repeat.

Let us not forget that Catoctin gave Dunbar a similar beating the following week. An all time team for that school. They have not been competitive since.
 
Ugh, the Dunbar comparison. I haven't forgotten, but Dunbar has nothing to do with the aforementioned "toughness" of either County if they aren't from either County. Right? Catoctin had to be an unbelievable team brah, they beat Dunbar! But that's irrelevant to the point. Unless FH, Ridge, and Alco fill their football schedules with Frederick County opponents annually, how can anyone call out toughness? But FH beat 3A Oakdale twice enroute to States?? Correct, and that's awesome!!! Doesn't mean we have cornered the market on toughness. I mean, what would Oakdale do with the 2 other schools from the County? We know the answer for 1
 
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A blind squirrel finds a nut every so often.

2019 Catoctin had a great team. Last week they got kicked around the field by Mountain Ridge. Parity has been restored. Not counting Silver Oak, FH is 8-3 against Frederick County schools in their last 11 meetings. Against schools in all 4 classes.
 
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I have found "in general" that for some reason football in both Washington and Frederick County has been very slow to recover from the COVID years. I have my own rationale, some of which has to do with dedication to the sport among other things like there is much more to do in populated areas. But the loss of the weight room and out-of-season work outs during COVID wreaked a good bit of development and still does. Allegany County was much quicker to pick those things back up.

Washington County football competition has fallen way off the map at all levels from grades 2-12. I also never thought I would see the day when Oakdale, Linganore, Urbana and Middletown would decline an offer to play Fort Hill when they had the same open date. I realize the Oakdale lopsided scores the past two seasons had much to do with this but I still never thought I would see that day.

Since Doug Williams retired as the longtime Catoctin coach after they won the 2019 state championship, Catoctin has posted a 3-19 record.
 
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A blind squirrel finds a nut every so often.

2019 Catoctin had a great team. Last week they got kicked around the field by Mountain Ridge. Parity has been restored. Not counting Silver Oak, FH is 8-3 against Frederick County schools in their last 11 meetings. Against schools in all 4 classes.
Silver Oak Academy is located in Carroll County.
 
A blind squirrel finds a nut every so often.

2019 Catoctin had a great team. Last week they got kicked around the field by Mountain Ridge. Parity has been restored. Not counting Silver Oak, FH is 8-3 against Frederick County schools in their last 11 meetings. Against schools in
A blind squirrel finds a nut every so often.

2019 Catoctin had a great team. Last week they got kicked around the field by Mountain Ridge. Parity has been restored. Not counting Silver Oak, FH is 8-3 against Frederick County schools in their last 11 meetings. Against schools in all 4 classes.

I have found "in general" that for some reason football in both Washington and Frederick County has been very slow to recover from the COVID years. I have my own rationale, some of which has to do with dedication to the sport among other things like there is much more to do in populated areas. But the loss of the weight room and out-of-season work outs during COVID wreaked a good bit of development and still does. Allegany County was much quicker to pick those things back up.

Washington County football competition has fallen way off the map at all levels from grades 2-12. I also never thought I would see the day when Oakdale, Linganore, Urbana and Middletown would decline an offer to play Fort Hill when they had the same open date. I realize the Oakdale lopsided scores the past two seasons had much to do with this but I still never thought I would see that day.

Since Doug Williams retired as the longtime Catoctin coach after they won the 2019 state championship, Catoctin has posted a 3-19 record.
A blind squirrel finds a nut every so often.

2019 Catoctin had a great team. Last week they got kicked around the field by Mountain Ridge. Parity has been restored. Not counting Silver Oak, FH is 8-3 against Frederick County schools in their last 11 meetings. Against schools in all 4 classes.
I agree FH football results vs any County are likely impressive as they're (we're) yr in yr out winners. Again, my comments have been in response to the comment about COUNTY TOUGHNESS. I used A GAME as AN EXAMPLE. Is FH the only football team in Allegany County?
A blind squirrel finds a nut every so often.

2019 Catoctin had a great team. Last week they got kicked around the field by Mountain Ridge. Parity has been restored. Not counting Silver Oak, FH is 8-3 against Frederick County schools in their last 11 meetings. Against schools in all 4 classes.
 
I have found "in general" that for some reason football in both Washington and Frederick County has been very slow to recover from the COVID years. I have my own rationale, some of which has to do with dedication to the sport among other things like there is much more to do in populated areas. But the loss of the weight room and out-of-season work outs during COVID wreaked a good bit of development and still does. Allegany County was much quicker to pick those things back up.

Washington County football competition has fallen way off the map at all levels from grades 2-12. I also never thought I would see the day when Oakdale, Linganore, Urbana and Middletown would decline an offer to play Fort Hill when they had the same open date. I realize the Oakdale lopsided scores the past two seasons had much to do with this but I still never thought I would see that day.

Since Doug Williams retired as the longtime Catoctin coach after they won the 2019 state championship, Catoctin has posted a 3-19 record.
Could lacrosse be taking some football kids? Idk if those seasons overlap
 
I agree FH football results vs any County are likely impressive as they're (we're) yr in yr out winners. Again, my comments have been in response to the comment about COUNTY TOUGHNESS. I used A GAME as AN EXAMPLE. Is FH the only football team in Allegany County?

Valid point, perhaps I was using the FH standard as more general term for the county. Though I think that as Todd mentioned, there is this overall observation (perception?) that Frederick County schools are often hyped up, but dont always live up to the hype. Maybe its the Mandela effect, but it definitely is something I think a good number of people feel. Of course, your example of using Catoctin is a double edged sword - on one hand, it proves my point that aside from Linganore, and to some extent, Middletown, most FC schools are hit and miss - world beaters one year - then a decade of mediocrity until they're really good again. -- but, it also proves your point that when a FC school is said to be "loaded" in THAT particular year, they really are loaded.

I guess to circle all the way back around to the original point, was that I was told Brunswick is loaded - are they really? Hopefully they get to meet in the post-season and find out.
 
I like this. Brunswick has both hurt us and had us concerned in the past. The overall experience is better for players and fans (imo) when the playoffs include some excitement outside a FH/Ridge match-up. Specific to Brunswick, I know 1 of their assistants. I haven't talked with him this year, but they take football seriously, even when they're down. Another note, Brunswick has a newer neighborhood that is nice with some amenities. It serves as a bedroom community for those working in the DC metro area as they have the option to commute via MARC. If interested, Google--Brunswick Crossing. Idk, but I assume Brunswick enrollment may have increased modestly since this neighborhood was created. Perhaps that will help yield some entertaining football in the future.
 
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