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Northern at Mountain Ridge prediction

The winner makes it to at least the semifinals. Quite possibly to Annapolis.

OK, that does depend on how the other match ups go this weekend and the reseeding that follows. If the rain holds off I will have to sneak up to Frostburg for this Friday night game that went to overtime about a month ago in Accident. Looks to me like both of these teams may have improved some since their last duel.

FH at Cleaspring game. We can stream it live but need $ help!

Update on tonight’s live broadcast stream. Thanks to some very generous sponsors and donors, we were able to raise the amount needed to do tonight’s Fort Hill at Clear Spring game live.

We will go live approximately 6 PM on our usual HD streaming outlets that include the following platforms: https://commercialvideoservices.com/webcasts.htm Roku, Chromecast, Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV. Search and add "Boxcast" channel, search Boxcast channel for
"Commercial Video" the games will also be archived on those streaming platforms for viewing anytime. The game will be live on the Internet. It will be broadcast on Breezeline channel 20/2001 Friday, at 7 PM.

FH at Cleaspring game. We can stream it live but need $ help!

I donated earlier today. Couldn't afford much, but I'm sure every little bit helps.

I donated yesterday. Hope some more folks help out. The weather is going to be crap tomorrow and there's no seating...so I'd love to watch it live from my warm couch.
Thank you very much! We are trying. I’ve been speaking to potential sponsors/doners and received a couple of emails from fans last night, Hopefully, we can find the remaining amount needed which is approx. $500. The MPSSAA playoff broadcast fees make things difficult. And yes, I have spoken with my MPSSAA contact about this on a few occasions, with no positive outcome.

Fort Hill forfeit status - The Appeal

Interesting article on WV playoffs from Metro News. This is a copy & paste from the article discussing Spring Mills appeal to get their forfeit wins back for an ineligible player.

LINK: https://wvmetronews.com/2024/11/13/...ng-mills-seeks-restoration-of-four-victories/

“We strongly believe the WVSSAC’s decision conflicts with the federal McKinney-Vento Act. This act mandates that Berkeley County Schools must immediately enroll all students experiencing housing insecurity and eliminate any barriers to their participation in extracurricular activities.”
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FH at Cleaspring game. We can stream it live but need $ help!

Update- At this point, we do not have enough additional sponsorship or donations to pay the MPSSAA additional fee and associated costs to make our broadcast live. We will make the final decision by noon tomorrow, with the hope that we will receive more sponsorships /donations before noon tomorrow. If we don't make it available live, it will be on our usual delay schedule online and will be shown on cable channel 20/2001 on Friday night at 7pm.
Why spend the extra money? Even though not many FH fans travel it may discourage a few if you play it live. We can all wait to see it on delay. Just my opinion but I appreciate all you guys do. Bringing the games is a privilege for all of us so thank you no matter what you end up doing.

WV playoffs postponed

FH at Cleaspring game. We can stream it live but need $ help!

Update- At this point, we do not have enough additional sponsorship or donations to pay the MPSSAA additional fee and associated costs to make our broadcast live. We will make the final decision by noon tomorrow, with the hope that we will receive more sponsorships /donations before noon tomorrow. If we don't make it available live, it will be on our usual delay schedule online and will be shown on cable channel 20/2001 on Friday night at 7pm.
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WV playoffs postponed

From what I’ve read and my understanding of it, the state never updated the playoff computer point ranking system after all of the teams won their appeal to drop down classifications from the new set up this offseason. The system was still giving teams win points based on the original 4 system set up and not after the teams dropped down classes after the appeal. Apparently coaches had been begging for the state to update the system because they could see this problem happening but here we are
The state did update it. Teams that dropped down in august were treated as members of that class for rating points. This screwed over teams that had scheduled the now lower classification teams thinking they would be up a class and worth more base points. Best example is Huntington, who despite being 9-1 was slated to be the #5 seed(before Spring Mills got dinged) in the bracket behind two 7-3 teams. This was because Huntington played 4 or 5 teams as part of their conference schedule that got bumped to 3A from 4A a week before the season started. Predictably a couple counties got injunctions last Friday against this current system and ordering the points he counted as they would’ve been before august. So now Huntington is awarded 4A points for beating their conference opponents that were dropped down.

In 4A it’s a matter of seeding. Which is obviously a big deal when traveling from the EP to the Huntington area, but everyone is in regardless with there only being 16 teams in class. In the lower classifications however reverting to points “as scheduled” is knocking teams that were in under the “as played” system out of the playoffs. Especially when compounded with the relatively new “SoS points”. 3-7 Capital is one of those teams that dropped from 4A to 3A. They play in the same conference as Huntington, and until Friday had a roughly 50/50 4A/3A schedule with all 3 of their wins coming over teams in the same situation as themselves. With the points reverting, Capital not only added 9 base points to their total(12 points for 3A wins>15 points for 4A wins) they also got a heap of additional SoS points(1.2 points per win by 3A opponent who beat you>1.5 per win by 4A opponent who beat you). This vaults Capital, at 3-7, to the #10 seed in 3A, over 5-5 Hampshire and a host of 4-6 teams.

The delay comes in because several more counties have since sought and won injunctions against the “as scheduled” points system. This puts the SSAC in a spot where to go on in either direction puts them in contempt of one court or another. So the state Supreme Court will need to weigh in. In short, it is a huge mess.

Ultimately the issue is WV having its hands tied by private schools. The SSAC is not allowed to force them into their own class, or apply a multiplier for their enrollment. The 4 class system and the secret formula used to group teams was all about getting the tiny catholic schools out of 1A where they routinely dominated most sports. As well as other schools piggybacking off this so they could try to avoid a Martinsburg or Bridgeport. Everybody wants to be the biggest fish possible in the smallest pond possible.
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Allegany should’ve opted out

First I agree with everything you said. My original combination of schools post was maybe taken a little out of context. On this forum the past few weeks people have complained about a myriad of things about area football. From lack of quality coaching at all levels. Participation numbers at all levels. The dissipation of some youth league teams for various reasons. The constant complaining about who should or shouldn't be playing here or there. Parents trying to find loopholes in the current district setup to get their kids in the school they want them in. Everyone looking for answers to all these questions. My post was more of a rethorical response in a one school situation, lots of those questions are settled. I'm old enough to remember when FH and Alco both housed more students individually as they both have combined now. Upon relocating back after 40 plus years downstate noticing some of the antiquated thought process of where kids should attend school. I especially agreed to a post you authored about how times have changed. Was living down state and had friends whose children were impacted by the magnet program of schools. I will say it out loud Athletics should never dictate the combination of schools. To settle the decade's old argument of local athletic complaints. The one school argument would end those complaints. On a lighter note some of us old folks are still complaining about were so and so played back in the 70s. Rumor has it that FH starting QB on the first state championship team in 1975 lived next to Braddock. Some will say it was fact. In any case I hope that clears up my thought process.
I count 85 varsity football players on a combined Cumberland school roster for next season. About 30 or more will need to be cut.

Hey, we had to tryout back in my day and not everyone made the team. Especially in basketball. But once again, to show how times have changed...I'm certain there are many parents who will be offended if their child is cut from the team after years of pee wee/youth experiences. I can already smell the participation lawsuits. It's a new day.

Allegany should’ve opted out

Why would anyone base consolidation on athletics?

If you wish to go down that road...combine Alco and FH and there are 1300+ kids in the school. Mtn Ridge can only take on another 100 or so students since that is all it was built to hold.

Now tell me who a combined Cumberland school is going to compete against, especially in football? Northern & Southern - no, neither school will do it and for good reason. There would be no more AMAC. Mineral County, Washington County, Frederick County?

You realize none of those counties will play FH now. A new school would have to either join the Martinsburg league (which they don't want FH now) and every sport will need to travel an hour and a half to play games in all sports.

So who would agree to play a Cumberland school outside of Mountain Ridge being mandated to do so? It's a rhetorical question. The answer is very few if any. Look around this rural area and check the enrollment at every school. They are all under 500 students with the exception of North and South Hagerstown.

If there is to be Cumberland consolidation, it will be based on finances. I need to see those numbers. Allegany is already at 100% bused (meaning all students have to take a bus). Put the middle school there and now 100% of all those kids need bused. Put the high school kids in FH and 75% of those kids need bused. Building the new Alco on Haystack was stupid. Should have been built next to Braddock Middle.
First I agree with everything you said. My original combination of schools post was maybe taken a little out of context. On this forum the past few weeks people have complained about a myriad of things about area football. From lack of quality coaching at all levels. Participation numbers at all levels. The dissipation of some youth league teams for various reasons. The constant complaining about who should or shouldn't be playing here or there. Parents trying to find loopholes in the current district setup to get their kids in the school they want them in. Everyone looking for answers to all these questions. My post was more of a rethorical response in a one school situation, lots of those questions are settled. I'm old enough to remember when FH and Alco both housed more students individually as they both have combined now. Upon relocating back after 40 plus years downstate noticing some of the antiquated thought process of where kids should attend school. I especially agreed to a post you authored about how times have changed. Was living down state and had friends whose children were impacted by the magnet program of schools. I will say it out loud Athletics should never dictate the combination of schools. To settle the decade's old argument of local athletic complaints. The one school argument would end those complaints. On a lighter note some of us old folks are still complaining about were so and so played back in the 70s. Rumor has it that FH starting QB on the first state championship team in 1975 lived next to Braddock. Some will say it was fact. In any case I hope that clears up my thought process.
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WV playoffs postponed

Maryland had it right back in 2019 before COVID hit. That was the playoff format myself, Coach Appel, Toby Peer and pretty much most of Washington County had laid out and proposed.

4 classes, 8 teams from each region made the playoffs. There were roughly 10-12 teams in each region. Those not in that top 8 finish did not deserve to be in nor did they want to be included.

Changing it for COVID was smart - there was no other choice since some teams only played like 3-5 games in 2021. But when the MPSSAA found out how much more money there were making with 6 classes of playoffs with everyone included, they were not going to budge from that COVID format.
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