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Well, doesn't look good...........
they are 1-7 right now and have to go to Allegany again next week. Oh, you are talking football? Not a basketball fan huh? I see you posted "who cares" about the results of the game Friday. You mean you didn't go? Must be nice to pick and chose when you want to be a fh fan isn't it? You probably realize, or maybe you don't, that about half of this basketball team played football. I'm thinking now is the time to give these kids your support.I guess wondering about the big red's football schedule keeps you warm through the winter months instead of supporting your basketball kids.
This post was edited on 1/11 7:31 PM by Snakeskin Cowboy
they are 1-7 right now and have to go to Allegany again next week. Oh, you are talking football? Not a basketball fan huh? I see you posted "who cares" about the results of the game Friday. You mean you didn't go? Must be nice to pick and chose when you want to be a fh fan isn't it? You probably realize, or maybe you don't, that about half of this basketball team played football. I'm thinking now is the time to give these kids your support.I guess wondering about the big red's football schedule keeps you warm through the winter months instead of supporting your basketball kids.
This post was edited on 1/11 7:31 PM by Snakeskin Cowboy
FORT HILL 2015 VARSITY FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Since the players have all been told now, here it is. Still need a Week 1 game.
Week 1 - OPEN
Week 2 - Keyser
Week 3 - at Chestnut Ridge
Week 4 - Silver Oak
Week 5 - Capitol Christian
Week 6 - Avalon
Week 7 - South Hagerstown
Week 8 - at Sherando
Week 9 - at Mountain Ridge
Week 10 - Allegany
Since the players have all been told now, here it is. Still need a Week 1 game.
Week 1 - OPEN
Week 2 - Keyser
Week 3 - at Chestnut Ridge
Week 4 - Silver Oak
Week 5 - Capitol Christian
Week 6 - Avalon
Week 7 - South Hagerstown
Week 8 - at Sherando
Week 9 - at Mountain Ridge
Week 10 - Allegany
Funny, since the players have been told...
This still makes me laugh. When have the players ever been sat down and giving the breaking news by the coaches? I don't recall the coaches ever telling players the schedules in an official matter. We always found out when the F- Club printed a generic schedule and we happened to come across it during the off-season or a neighbor brought a copy buy. It never was some big top secret mission. The only reason to keep a schedule secret and this is far fetched, would be to keep it from an opponent who may alter what their schedule may be in some way to gain an advantage.
This still makes me laugh. When have the players ever been sat down and giving the breaking news by the coaches? I don't recall the coaches ever telling players the schedules in an official matter. We always found out when the F- Club printed a generic schedule and we happened to come across it during the off-season or a neighbor brought a copy buy. It never was some big top secret mission. The only reason to keep a schedule secret and this is far fetched, would be to keep it from an opponent who may alter what their schedule may be in some way to gain an advantage.
Re: Funny, since the players have been told...
I have preached this before. Times have changed...kudos that the kids should know first. It seems ridiculously archaic that players should have to find out by some other means. Just because that's how it used to be doesn't mean that's the right way to handle it. Players absolutely should know before anyone else, at least that is the current head coaches' wishes. The fact that technology/social networks allow everyone to know the schedule before January is over is ground breaking. 25 years ago most people found out in August. So the fact you know the schedule now before the contract ink is even dry should be reason to laugh at how things actually used to be.
Also Chestnut Ridge luckily has been moved for 2016 and 2017 (will stay at Week 3). That allowed South Hagerstown to be added.
This post was edited on 1/12 2:58 PM by TDHelmick
Close. You may want to also realize that until contracts are signed nothing is official. So why announce before it's official? For example, the South Hagerstown contract is not such a simple/quick task as you may think, but yet people wanted it made public. There were rumors that Morgantown was a done deal. It obviously wasn't. Also you have to consider that other teams need games. The MVAL broke up and everyone was/is scrambling to find games. Until a contract is done why would you let anyone know who you have picked up unofficially? In other words, yes absolutely other teams would steal a game that isn't in ink. It happens very frequently.
I have preached this before. Times have changed...kudos that the kids should know first. It seems ridiculously archaic that players should have to find out by some other means. Just because that's how it used to be doesn't mean that's the right way to handle it. Players absolutely should know before anyone else, at least that is the current head coaches' wishes. The fact that technology/social networks allow everyone to know the schedule before January is over is ground breaking. 25 years ago most people found out in August. So the fact you know the schedule now before the contract ink is even dry should be reason to laugh at how things actually used to be.
Also Chestnut Ridge luckily has been moved for 2016 and 2017 (will stay at Week 3). That allowed South Hagerstown to be added.
This post was edited on 1/12 2:58 PM by TDHelmick
Re: Funny, since the players have been told...
I can respect what you are saying. The system makes a home purchase and getting a loan appear to be easier than scheduling a football game. Regardless, I think the schedule as it stands now is a good improvement over the past two years with 3-4 competitive teams, Sherando, SHHS, and Alco being the 3 top teams, Chestnut Ridge being a middle of the road team. My opinion would stay the same whether Week 1 is filled with a cupcake or a contender, it's just a better schedule.
I can respect what you are saying. The system makes a home purchase and getting a loan appear to be easier than scheduling a football game. Regardless, I think the schedule as it stands now is a good improvement over the past two years with 3-4 competitive teams, Sherando, SHHS, and Alco being the 3 top teams, Chestnut Ridge being a middle of the road team. My opinion would stay the same whether Week 1 is filled with a cupcake or a contender, it's just a better schedule.
I finally have been able to gain access to the Baltimore Sun forum. It's a problem on their end with IP addresses.
After reading some older Sun posts that used my quotes from here I feel better by going on a more detailed record (because some people there misquoted what I was trying to say). I have stated a few times that Fort Hill has said no to a few Week 1 options. They were Class 4A powers Calvert Hall, Wise and DuVal. Then the Sun forum went back and forth about those teams never having asked FH if they wanted a game. For the record, it is correct those schools never contacted FH directly. Instead, FH has been trying to get a Week 1 game by joining the I-95 Kickoff Classic which is played at Towson and at Morgan State every year. The organizers of that event has asked FH about playing those schools. So yes, it did not come directly from the school AD/coach. That's all.
I also have said there are a huge handful of teams that have said no to playing FH that week (Mervo, Edmondson, Douglass Ducks). So it goes both ways obviously. I will continue to stand by the fact that no Class 1A or Class 2A MPSSAA school is willing to play FH. At least the 30 or so teams that had the same open date. Sorry to disappoint a few people, but the reasons are always competition based. FH has even offered to travel to teams on their own dime for a one-year deal only to be told no thank you. Considering there are 11 Class 1A West football teams next year who are competing for the same playoff spots and that only one of them (Alco) will play Fort Hill, you have to realize something is drastically wrong with this system. Athletic directors in Pennsylvania don't believe me when I explain it to them. They don't believe that is possible. Although debated here before to no end, it's not in anyone's best interest that everyone in the region play each other, but they should be made to play at least a few. Otherwise this playoff structure is extremely not valid.
After reading some older Sun posts that used my quotes from here I feel better by going on a more detailed record (because some people there misquoted what I was trying to say). I have stated a few times that Fort Hill has said no to a few Week 1 options. They were Class 4A powers Calvert Hall, Wise and DuVal. Then the Sun forum went back and forth about those teams never having asked FH if they wanted a game. For the record, it is correct those schools never contacted FH directly. Instead, FH has been trying to get a Week 1 game by joining the I-95 Kickoff Classic which is played at Towson and at Morgan State every year. The organizers of that event has asked FH about playing those schools. So yes, it did not come directly from the school AD/coach. That's all.
I also have said there are a huge handful of teams that have said no to playing FH that week (Mervo, Edmondson, Douglass Ducks). So it goes both ways obviously. I will continue to stand by the fact that no Class 1A or Class 2A MPSSAA school is willing to play FH. At least the 30 or so teams that had the same open date. Sorry to disappoint a few people, but the reasons are always competition based. FH has even offered to travel to teams on their own dime for a one-year deal only to be told no thank you. Considering there are 11 Class 1A West football teams next year who are competing for the same playoff spots and that only one of them (Alco) will play Fort Hill, you have to realize something is drastically wrong with this system. Athletic directors in Pennsylvania don't believe me when I explain it to them. They don't believe that is possible. Although debated here before to no end, it's not in anyone's best interest that everyone in the region play each other, but they should be made to play at least a few. Otherwise this playoff structure is extremely not valid.
34 in a row
Unless FH schedules a big boy week 1, looks like the win streak will reach 34 heading into the South Hagerstown game. Outside of the annual battle against Keyser, it's pretty much cupcake city early in the year for the two time defending 1A champs.
Unless FH schedules a big boy week 1, looks like the win streak will reach 34 heading into the South Hagerstown game. Outside of the annual battle against Keyser, it's pretty much cupcake city early in the year for the two time defending 1A champs.
Re: 34 in a row
It's pretty telling how bad Allegany football really is and has become when teams who defeat the Campers are considered cupcakes on Fort Hill's schedule.
This post was edited on 1/14 10:14 AM by FHHSAHS
It's almost amusing how badly you want someone to beat Fort Hill. lol
It's pretty telling how bad Allegany football really is and has become when teams who defeat the Campers are considered cupcakes on Fort Hill's schedule.
This post was edited on 1/14 10:14 AM by FHHSAHS
As I understand it basis school size, Allegany is now on the low end of 1A with a lousy coach while FH is on the high end of 1A with a great coach. We will find out in the upcoming post Johnson year how the definition of cupcake shakes out. Will the blessings continue or will FH begin the travails of Job.
Fort Hill high end 648
Allegany low end 574
Fort Hill is #10 and Allegany is #20 out of 52 schools. Still looks like Allegany is still in the high end.
Allegany low end 574
Fort Hill is #10 and Allegany is #20 out of 52 schools. Still looks like Allegany is still in the high end.
Re: 34 in a row
If Chestnut Ridge, a small PA school who had an early exit in the playoffs, is now considered a big game for FH football, what does that say about the state of area football? The games at the stadium the past several years have been awful. That's also an indictment on Allegany and the state of their program. Hopefully next year will be better. I would love to see some great games once again at Greenway. It used to be that fans couldn't wait for Friday night because there was a big game. Now we get FH/Avalon or Alco/MATHS and get to go home at halftime.
If Chestnut Ridge, a small PA school who had an early exit in the playoffs, is now considered a big game for FH football, what does that say about the state of area football? The games at the stadium the past several years have been awful. That's also an indictment on Allegany and the state of their program. Hopefully next year will be better. I would love to see some great games once again at Greenway. It used to be that fans couldn't wait for Friday night because there was a big game. Now we get FH/Avalon or Alco/MATHS and get to go home at halftime.
Re: 34 in a row
It's what this area has become. Hell I remember going to watch Alco and FH play BW and it was a great game everyone looked forward to. Now the only good debate is whether consolidation is the best option and if BW can stay open. Football isn't the only sport that took the hit. The basketball AMAC? Are u kidding me? Local area bball is hideous. A 20 game schedule full of Northern type teams and an out of league series with MATHS. Yikes who wants to watch that. Can u imagine if there was an AMAC in football? Fort Hill would have to play Northern, Southern, Frankfort, Hampshire, Mtn Ridge, and Alco like in bball. We would all be home by halftime. So be thankful area schools won't play fh. At least Capitol and Avalon have some athletes and speed.
This post was edited on 1/14 2:39 PM by BrianH1974
It's what this area has become. Hell I remember going to watch Alco and FH play BW and it was a great game everyone looked forward to. Now the only good debate is whether consolidation is the best option and if BW can stay open. Football isn't the only sport that took the hit. The basketball AMAC? Are u kidding me? Local area bball is hideous. A 20 game schedule full of Northern type teams and an out of league series with MATHS. Yikes who wants to watch that. Can u imagine if there was an AMAC in football? Fort Hill would have to play Northern, Southern, Frankfort, Hampshire, Mtn Ridge, and Alco like in bball. We would all be home by halftime. So be thankful area schools won't play fh. At least Capitol and Avalon have some athletes and speed.
This post was edited on 1/14 2:39 PM by BrianH1974
I stand corrected. I thought FH had more than that and was very close to 2A. And, I thought Alco would fall under 500. Cool.
Re: 34 in a row
Instead, we get a very good Surrattsville team who comes to Greenway this past Thanksgiving weekend with a birth to the state title game on the line, who actually makes it a great game to watch with a First Team Consensus All-State running back...and the stadium has about the same amount of fans in the stands as when Silver Oak visited in 2013. People like you can continue to close your eyes and pretend it's about the schedule and who they play. Schools are extremely smaller, population is extremely smaller. It's unhealthy to live in the past. The city schools are all the same size as Valley and Bruce used to be. The fact FH is by leaps and bounds the best at that level for two straight years doesn't take into account what people who don't like it believe.
The key word there is "used to be". You remember...when people actually lived and worked here.
Instead, we get a very good Surrattsville team who comes to Greenway this past Thanksgiving weekend with a birth to the state title game on the line, who actually makes it a great game to watch with a First Team Consensus All-State running back...and the stadium has about the same amount of fans in the stands as when Silver Oak visited in 2013. People like you can continue to close your eyes and pretend it's about the schedule and who they play. Schools are extremely smaller, population is extremely smaller. It's unhealthy to live in the past. The city schools are all the same size as Valley and Bruce used to be. The fact FH is by leaps and bounds the best at that level for two straight years doesn't take into account what people who don't like it believe.
Re: 34 in a row
Winning two playoff games is an "early exit"? But then an early exit is something Allegany knows all too well isn't it?
Re: 34 in a row
Todd it is very sad what has happened to Cumberland in general, and to sports in the area. I went to school with your Dad, and went to ALL Fort Hill games (home and away) until I left Cumberland in the late 1970's. So I saw the glory days of Fort Hilll, Allegany and Lasalle/BW.
Cumberland was a great place to grow up. It was safe, clean and prosperous in that time. It is just impossible for me to believe how much the town has shrunk in both population and employers. I have kept hoping over the years that as the area declined, it would become attractive to some industry to come in and revive the area. I still have that hope.
You are right, we have to accept sports (specifically football) is different now, and probably will never be what it was. It does not do much good to contrast the Allegany/Fort Hill teams of today with teams from the past. Perhaps that is a distraction to what no one wants to think or talk about - what is going to happen when one of the two schools (or both) is so small that they will be the smallest schools in the state, and become totally irrelevant.
Todd it is very sad what has happened to Cumberland in general, and to sports in the area. I went to school with your Dad, and went to ALL Fort Hill games (home and away) until I left Cumberland in the late 1970's. So I saw the glory days of Fort Hilll, Allegany and Lasalle/BW.
Cumberland was a great place to grow up. It was safe, clean and prosperous in that time. It is just impossible for me to believe how much the town has shrunk in both population and employers. I have kept hoping over the years that as the area declined, it would become attractive to some industry to come in and revive the area. I still have that hope.
You are right, we have to accept sports (specifically football) is different now, and probably will never be what it was. It does not do much good to contrast the Allegany/Fort Hill teams of today with teams from the past. Perhaps that is a distraction to what no one wants to think or talk about - what is going to happen when one of the two schools (or both) is so small that they will be the smallest schools in the state, and become totally irrelevant.
Seriously people???
Either that, or Fort Hill is just that good.
But I'm not going to sit back and let people bash Fort Hill's schedule, especially after what I consider a nice upgrade to it. Chestnut Ridge lost in the second round in the PA playoffs. Linganore also lost in the second round of their playoffs. Point? Someone has to lose.
Face it, Allegany football is becoming, dare I say has become, irrelevant. And Allegany people can't stand it (if I were a fan, I'd be livid as well). That's why more Alco fans go to an Alco basketball game than go to their football games.
But Fort Hill? They're doing just fine. The end goal is winning state titles. Fort Hill has figured out how to do that. Why change it?
If you all wanna watch "big boy" football, there are some 4A and 3A schools about 90 miles west of here. If you wanna watch championship small school football, we'll see you in red on Friday nights at Greenway.
I dunno, I would say the fact that Fort Hill is defending back to back STATE champions, while defeating (demolishing) 1A teams (and 3A Douglass) from all over the state; might be more a reflection on the state of STATEWIDE football, if anything.
Either that, or Fort Hill is just that good.
But I'm not going to sit back and let people bash Fort Hill's schedule, especially after what I consider a nice upgrade to it. Chestnut Ridge lost in the second round in the PA playoffs. Linganore also lost in the second round of their playoffs. Point? Someone has to lose.
Face it, Allegany football is becoming, dare I say has become, irrelevant. And Allegany people can't stand it (if I were a fan, I'd be livid as well). That's why more Alco fans go to an Alco basketball game than go to their football games.
But Fort Hill? They're doing just fine. The end goal is winning state titles. Fort Hill has figured out how to do that. Why change it?
If you all wanna watch "big boy" football, there are some 4A and 3A schools about 90 miles west of here. If you wanna watch championship small school football, we'll see you in red on Friday nights at Greenway.
Why in the world are we playing a team from Virginia
Is Sherando any good, I see they play 4 A Virginia, but are we 8-3 against a pretty weak schedule, why would we schedule a team like that ? Any ideas on if they are any good ?? Thoughts ??
Is Sherando any good, I see they play 4 A Virginia, but are we 8-3 against a pretty weak schedule, why would we schedule a team like that ? Any ideas on if they are any good ?? Thoughts ??
Re: Why in the world are we playing a team from Virginia
8-3 last season
in 2013 they lost in the 4A State Final to Dinwiddie and the only regular season lost to WV AAA State Champion Martinsburg.
They play some pretty good teams for sure.
Sherando is easily the best team on the Schedule.
8-3 last season
in 2013 they lost in the 4A State Final to Dinwiddie and the only regular season lost to WV AAA State Champion Martinsburg.
They play some pretty good teams for sure.
