Former Alleganys Kirk Robinette Heading to Championship

[BoyznBlue]

I would go a step further and say coaches aren't playing kids in the right position to succeed in college. #63 for FH never should have been on the line. Granted he has like 40 sacks but he isn't big enough to play the line in college. And #2 should have been the split end, not running the ball. It could have hurt Fort Hill's chances winning games but getting him to college should be the priority. Graves should not have played QB. He is a safety in college and that's where coaches should have left him on one side of the ball to maximize his scholarship chances. Screw team goals.

This is an excellent point. Over the years there have been several local players for (Alco and FH) that could have been a TB that had to bulk up to play FB in the Power Wing-T. And a QB or WR won't get enough opportunities to put anything on tape. But the next question is if it's the coach's job to win games or prepare the players for college. The bottom line is it's not easy to get a scholarship. I have covered numerous players who had outstanding careers and put up numbers at 4A, who didn't get offered, or got offers from D2 schools.

 

[TDHelmick]

I know who the players are in this area that have an outside shot at D1. So do college coaches. I know a handful of Baltimore/NJ players in the same boat. It is brutally difficult for all of them. Sadly, many of these senior players are in stress mode because they see friends with D1 offers already dating back to summer. Yet no coach is in contact with them because D2 schools do not have the finances or resources to recruit until December/January/February.

If a player winds up at say D2 Shepherd, I can tell you that most of their entire roster is made up of players that were the captain of their high school team. Or were First Team All-State selections. All of them had some type of aspiration about playing D1. I have come to a conclusion that the biggest recruiting factors are usually height, speed and athleticism...not so much high school stats or weight room numbers. Height and speed are the two upsides only god can grant. The rest they can put on or take off once you get to college.

It also should be pointed out that D2 schools rarely ever sign players from outside a certain distance. An Oregon D2 coach told me to let kids from this area know to never bother contacting him no matter how good they are. 90% of all D2 and D3 players choose a school within a 3 hour driving radius away for reasons I probably should not have to explain. A D2 coach from far away is not going to waste their limited resources recruiting a kid from far away who 9 times out of 10 won't end up at their school. We are lucky here though in that West Virginia and Pennsylvania have a boat load of quality D2 opportunities that can help with money. Not so in Maryland (Bowie State).

 

[Lagmeister]

I guess when all else fails lets distort, exaggerate and deflect attention away from what's being discussed... I thought you wanted to talk about "why no scholarships in the 1990s is the question" Now its some off the wall discussion about position changes? Lmao

In this day and age of fake news and trump politics I shouldn't expect anything else... Next thing will be said is that people are advocating for a FH Patriots and ravens match up.... Oh that's right, that exaggeration has already been used... I guess this is my que to step aside from the world of making up absurd and out in left field remarks...someone else can baby sit him...

In this day and age of fake news and trump politics - The living-in-your-head snowflake schadenfreude is just too delicious.

 

[FHHSAHS]

4A, or big school, players are usually in better "positions" to be recruited for their natural abilities because there are a bunch of other players to play other positions, its numbers game. On a 4A squad, Brayden Brown might not have to be the HB because there is another player with more of a fit to that position, and Brown could've been a slot man. On a 4A squad, Graves could've simply played safety and not QB because there is another kid who is 6'2" and a half and 220 pounds with a better cannon who could play QB.

Hell, even the style of play is an issue. I would never tell FH to scrap the wing-T right now because a) FH runs it well and b) it's proven effective at winning titles. BUT...if anyone was at the title game, did you notice how much more consistently effective Brown was running TB out of the I? He suddenly looked twice as fast and was hitting holes he hadn't seen all day. He's effective as a HB running jet sweeps. He's REALLY effective as a TB running off tackle. But then, the FB trap game goes out the window and Banks doesn't get all those TDs and the game could've been different.

Disagree with me all you want, but Steve Trimble doesn't go to Maryland running out of the wing-T for a class C school.


This all really has nothing to do with wishing Kirky Robinette good luck and kudos though. Congrats, kid.

 

[BoyznBlue]

4A, or big school, players are usually in better "positions" to be recruited for their natural abilities because there are a bunch of other players to play other positions, its numbers game. On a 4A squad, Brayden Brown might not have to be the HB because there is another player with more of a fit to that position, and Brown could've been a slot man. On a 4A squad, Graves could've simply played safety and not QB because there is another kid who is 6'2" and a half and 220 pounds with a better cannon who could play QB.

Hell, even the style of play is an issue. I would never tell FH to scrap the wing-T right now because a) FH runs it well and b) it's proven effective at winning titles. BUT...if anyone was at the title game, did you notice how much more consistently effective Brown was running TB out of the I? He suddenly looked twice as fast and was hitting holes he hadn't seen all day. He's effective as a HB running jet sweeps. He's REALLY effective as a TB running off tackle. But then, the FB trap game goes out the window and Banks doesn't get all those TDs and the game could've been different.

Disagree with me all you want, but Steve Trimble doesn't go to Maryland running out of the wing-T for a class C school.


This all really has nothing to do with wishing Kirky Robinette good luck and kudos though. Congrats, kid.

I can't disagree with any of this. But even on 4A teams the better athletes play both ways. Brown played a lot of QB coming up through the system. Was he ever given a serious chance to play at FH?

 

[FHHSAHS]

I can't disagree with any of this. But even on 4A teams the better athletes play both ways. Brown played a lot of QB coming up through the system. Was he ever given a serious chance to play at FH?

I cant answer if he was ever specifically given that opportunity. But on the other hand he had Graves there who was playing well as a QB and Brown probably clicked better at HB than Graves would've. Again, I dont know how that all came to be and how the kids got into those specific positions. But my guess would be that of the people who could play HB, Brown was the best option so why sacrifice the HB position to put him at QB when you have someone else who could be an effective QB?

In all fairness, even though I think Graves had more passing yards than any FH QB in quite a few years, the QB isn't the "focus" of the wing-T offense. You want the ball in the hand of your best playmakers as often as possible. Unless FH was willing to change to a pistol offense or to the wildcat or something, having Brown hand the ball off 80% of the time was determined not to be the best place to put him.

I cannot question one single thing about the way the FH coaches had it set up. They've found a great recipe, no need to add more salt or pepper.

 

[BigRed#56]

Congratulations to Kirk Robinette and J.M.U..