Kirk Robinette and James Madison are heading to the National Championship after going to North Dakota State who has won the last 5 National Titles and beating them.
Former Alleganys Kirk Robinette Heading to Championship
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Yes 31, if you see the clip on ESPN and its online the James Madison coach is giving a speech before the game in the locker room you can see a part of Kirk from the back kneeled down
I'm just going to sit this right here.. Clearly most of you don't know what it takes to get recruited... Hell y'all were arguing game tape wasn't important... How's all those sec offers coming along? Just be happy with your cream puff schedule and small time 1a ball and give it a rest....
2. Film and Tape
Coaches and scouts have different ways to get their hands on film/tape of potential recruits.
Many programs subscribe to a recruiting service which loads footage of recruits onto a server or site where a staff can all watch and evaluate a recruit.
High school coaches and recruits are also very proactive these days. Colleges get thousands of highlight DVDs mailed to them everyday from all over the country from coaches, players and parents.
AS A SCOUT, THIS IS WHERE I ((RELISH)) EVALUATING AND
((MANY COACHES AT COLLEGES DO TOO.)) THE TAPE DOESN'T LIE.
10. Location, Competition Level and Production
You may be asking "what does location have to do with anything?", so let me explain. California, Florida and Texas are three of the best states for football.
Georgia, Alabama, Virginia and Ohio are up there too. If a recruit is from an area or school that is known for traditionally producing talent, then that bodes well and coaches/scouts
****-->((((DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.))))<--****
-->HONESTLY, COACHES ARE GOING TO FLOCK TO SEE SONY MICHEL BECAUSE HE'S IN FLORIDA BEFORE THEY GO SEE A RB FROM SOUTH DAKOTA (CUMBERLAND MD).<--
WITH THOSE HOTBED AREAS COME THE """ASSURANCE THAT THE RECRUIT HAS BEEN FACING GOOD COMPETITION""". -->IF HE'S BEEN PRODUCING AGAINST GOOD COMPETITION THEN HIS CHANCES OF PRODUCING IN COLLEGE BECOME THAT MUCH GREATER.<--
Lol no one is coming to Cumberland to watch Silver Oak v. FH when they can stay in Baltimore/DC metro area and watch and evaluate hundreds of kids playing other college level competition. Hence the need for area teams to schedule better competition if a goal is getting kids recruited... I don't see how you can't have both... A decent schedule improving your players chances at getting to the next level, and still win championships... Laugh all you want but your ignorance on this subject matter has been exposed.. If you don't believe me take it from the scouts.. Read the article and educate yourself so you don't look so foolish... I'm honestly over it but clearly you guys are still butt hurt bc you keep bringing it up....
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...llege-football-recruits-are-evaluated/page/12
2. Film and Tape
Coaches and scouts have different ways to get their hands on film/tape of potential recruits.
Many programs subscribe to a recruiting service which loads footage of recruits onto a server or site where a staff can all watch and evaluate a recruit.
High school coaches and recruits are also very proactive these days. Colleges get thousands of highlight DVDs mailed to them everyday from all over the country from coaches, players and parents.
AS A SCOUT, THIS IS WHERE I ((RELISH)) EVALUATING AND
((MANY COACHES AT COLLEGES DO TOO.)) THE TAPE DOESN'T LIE.
10. Location, Competition Level and Production
You may be asking "what does location have to do with anything?", so let me explain. California, Florida and Texas are three of the best states for football.
Georgia, Alabama, Virginia and Ohio are up there too. If a recruit is from an area or school that is known for traditionally producing talent, then that bodes well and coaches/scouts
****-->((((DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.))))<--****
-->HONESTLY, COACHES ARE GOING TO FLOCK TO SEE SONY MICHEL BECAUSE HE'S IN FLORIDA BEFORE THEY GO SEE A RB FROM SOUTH DAKOTA (CUMBERLAND MD).<--
WITH THOSE HOTBED AREAS COME THE """ASSURANCE THAT THE RECRUIT HAS BEEN FACING GOOD COMPETITION""". -->IF HE'S BEEN PRODUCING AGAINST GOOD COMPETITION THEN HIS CHANCES OF PRODUCING IN COLLEGE BECOME THAT MUCH GREATER.<--
Lol no one is coming to Cumberland to watch Silver Oak v. FH when they can stay in Baltimore/DC metro area and watch and evaluate hundreds of kids playing other college level competition. Hence the need for area teams to schedule better competition if a goal is getting kids recruited... I don't see how you can't have both... A decent schedule improving your players chances at getting to the next level, and still win championships... Laugh all you want but your ignorance on this subject matter has been exposed.. If you don't believe me take it from the scouts.. Read the article and educate yourself so you don't look so foolish... I'm honestly over it but clearly you guys are still butt hurt bc you keep bringing it up....
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...llege-football-recruits-are-evaluated/page/12
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JMU is in negotiations with 2 Top 50 Maryland Schools. They're thinking that if they do that they may be able to leapfrog Fort Hill in the Maryland AP Poll.
How many college coaches are you in personal contact with at any level and how many kids have you helped to get recruited?
When Dylan Clay, Garrett Clay, Ty Johnson, Kirk Robinette, Brayden Brown, Gage Shaffer, Cole Weaver were being recruited, not a single coach asked to see their schedule. Not one.
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...llege-football-recruits-are-evaluated/page/12
Take it up with a real scout of talent LOL.. while you're at it talk about how you would like to schedule better teams... Easier said than done.. Easy to say you would schedule a good team than actually schedule one. "I would do this I would do that" blah blah blah
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I would fight Mike Tyson but the barometric pressure has dropped causing it to rain and for my arthritis to sit in. Besides I don't have rain boots, my neighbors won't fight him so why should I? If you can get 5 neighbors to fight him and pay for my gas then I will whip Mike Tyson's ass a hundred years from now at the time of my choosing when no one is looking... LOL thats what ya'll sound like when you talk about how you "would" schedule better teams...
Those 4 rings are heavy on the extremities, if worn all on the same hand the body leans to that side, enough of an unbalance to break ones back....seems legit.
Lol seems plausible.... We're expected to believe everything else... Why shouldn't we believe your explanation? Lol
First know that I am not trying to belittle an opinion. It's only a good discussion where there is a difference of opinions. I encourage anyone to show me other things I may not agree with.
I would encourage you to help volunteer with my non-profit organization the Queen City Football Foundation as I have asked before. Things needed are helping kids create a better highlight video, helping them get to camps, helping them get in contact with coaches, helping them prepare for combine/test results, helping them prepare and take the SAT/ACT, among other things. You can meet with college coaches in person and talk with them about what they are looking for. They will sometimes watch 50 highlight videos a day, never once knowing who the opponent is on the other side of the recruit they are looking at. I have sat behind those coaches shoulders as they went through video after video. They tell me what they look for as they do it. It's not difficult to know whether a kid is D1 worthy or not. Local area football has one senior this year, maybe two that could fit that mold. Scheduling will not change this fact despite whatever you want to believe.
Considering that Ty Johnson is the first Fort Hill D1 scholarship player since 1992, based upon your analysis about scheduling...FH schedules must have been really bad for 23 years. Now that Brayden Brown is another, that's two in the last two years...more than any in those last 23 years. What changed? The schedules? You can copy and paste any internet article you wish. If you want to spend 20 minutes reading true life stories about recruiting and how it works I encourage you to also check out this link:
http://queencityfootballfoundation.org/recruiting/college_contacts.htm
http://queencityfootballfoundation.org/recruiting/college_contacts.htm
There is a pdf document on there entitled, "Gauging A Student-Athletes Level of Recruitment" that is 27 pages long. Nowhere does it mention classification or schedules. Trust me when I tell you that scheduling has absolutely nothing to do with recruiting in this part of the country. From here to Washington County to Berkeley County. You are way, way off. And if you don't have the experience to know this, then I again encourage you to volunteer. We would be delighted to have you help.
I would encourage you to help volunteer with my non-profit organization the Queen City Football Foundation as I have asked before. Things needed are helping kids create a better highlight video, helping them get to camps, helping them get in contact with coaches, helping them prepare for combine/test results, helping them prepare and take the SAT/ACT, among other things. You can meet with college coaches in person and talk with them about what they are looking for. They will sometimes watch 50 highlight videos a day, never once knowing who the opponent is on the other side of the recruit they are looking at. I have sat behind those coaches shoulders as they went through video after video. They tell me what they look for as they do it. It's not difficult to know whether a kid is D1 worthy or not. Local area football has one senior this year, maybe two that could fit that mold. Scheduling will not change this fact despite whatever you want to believe.
Considering that Ty Johnson is the first Fort Hill D1 scholarship player since 1992, based upon your analysis about scheduling...FH schedules must have been really bad for 23 years. Now that Brayden Brown is another, that's two in the last two years...more than any in those last 23 years. What changed? The schedules? You can copy and paste any internet article you wish. If you want to spend 20 minutes reading true life stories about recruiting and how it works I encourage you to also check out this link:
http://queencityfootballfoundation.org/recruiting/college_contacts.htm
http://queencityfootballfoundation.org/recruiting/college_contacts.htm
There is a pdf document on there entitled, "Gauging A Student-Athletes Level of Recruitment" that is 27 pages long. Nowhere does it mention classification or schedules. Trust me when I tell you that scheduling has absolutely nothing to do with recruiting in this part of the country. From here to Washington County to Berkeley County. You are way, way off. And if you don't have the experience to know this, then I again encourage you to volunteer. We would be delighted to have you help.
excellent, i was watching that game but didn't hear his name, what position was he playing?
Making fun of where a local kid goes to School is disgusting... It's so hard to get a Football Scholarship anywhere and for you to make fun of him. Shame on you!!!
He plays DL and is a freshman. Think he has 1or 2 sacks and a couple tackles. I never said he was a star, but you could see hom standing on the sidelines. Lol
For the love of God, I am not making fun of where the kid goes to school, I am making fun of the age old argument against Fort Hill from bigsavage and boyznblue. A highly successful FCS school that just beat the 5 time defending National Champion and is heading to the National Championship game, what's to be made fun of. JMU is fantastic, end of story. You're reading it all wrong, clearly everyone else understands. Continue to feign outrage if you will, but you've completely missed the point. For the record, I shout praise from the Mountaintops about all local kids and their accolades, making fun of JMU, seriously, are you kidding me? Maybe you're one of those folks that can't see the Forest for the Trees.
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If making fun of JMU was the goal, I might have asked whether they had scheduled Frostburg, or Lincoln Tech, or the International Beauty School. Top 50 Maryland schools and Martinsburg are all Fort Hill--specific disses, having nothing to do with JMU, but you know this.
Rule 37 b in my book of life: "If I've watched a local kid play college ball on ESPN, that's an automatic disqualifier to be made fun of."
Keep telling yourself that you might eventually believe it and convince others.... Shame shame shame
Lol hey I didn't say it... Maybe you should place the blame where its deserved... hehehe
I wasn't really going to comment on this thread but since you people keep mentioning my name....
Just for the record, I don't intentionally "troll" - as a journalist who covers prep sports I have to be critical at times. And, like most responsible journalists, I never single out a prep player for criticism. FH supporters are extremely sensitive and insecure for some reason. I have said repeatedly that I have a great respect for both city schools and I actually root for both. I can say 9 great things about FH, but if I say 1 quasi-negative thing, that's all FH people will hear, lol. Yes, I have said they don't play a competitive schedule compared with the rest of the Top 25 schools in the state. I stand by that and I'll probably say the same thing next summer when the schedule is released, lol. Actually, in the last two years many people - even FH people - are agreeing with me.
In terms of recruiting, Todd and Big Savage both made good points. I disagree with Todd that just because Ty Johnson and Brayden received D1 scholarships in the last three years means that the level of competition isn't important. Every high school in the country probably produces a D1 player every 10 years or so. Producing 2 in the last 3 years could just be a statistical anomaly. It's completely possible if they played better teams they would have more players getting recruited.
size and speed for the position they play is #1 after the fact that they have ability that is endorsed by the head coach. about 8 years ago I spoke with Chuck Driesbach, a former nfl and major college coach for over 30 years when I was assisting a young man in his recruitment. He asked me 1 question and he made a statement. The question was "how big and how fast is he", and the statement was "when you send me film, make sure he can play here before you send it, I don't have time to look a film on kids that cant play here". Here at that time was Michigan State. so you all can take from that what you want. again that was 8-10 years ago.
My comparison was that since FH failed to produce a D1-A scholarship player from 1992 to 2015, then by the analogy that scheduling has more to do with it, the schedule must have been poor since the early 90s. Not just something that recently has occurred. Because what has occurred recently suggests something completely different about scheduling and scholarships at FH. An anomaly may be one thing, but 23 years without a D1-A scholarship is another.
I said it's "possible." We don't know. If we use the other thread as a starting point, FH fans believe they can play with every public school in the state except Wise. Those other top 4A schools are producing D1 players every year. There was another discussion, I believe it was in September, and it listed all the area players currently playing college football at any level, and FH only had a handful - maybe 4 or 5. If FH has 4 championships in a row, why aren't they producing the same amount of college players as Quince Orchard - and team you're supposed to be better than? So yes, it's completely "possible" that the scheduling could be a reason why.
If I was recruiting a player and im watching his highlight tape where he dominates a team or 2. I would want to know if those teams were any good. I think a big reason why our players dont get recruited is because we are 1A and not many big schools send there scouts out to these smaller schools unless there is a must see prospect.
Besides one Dematha game who did FH really play besides Victor Cullen and Jefferson??? Those 90 schedules weren't going to help kids get recruited either... Theodore Roosevelt, North Hagerstown those rent-a-win DC teams, really? I don't think you want to point to the 90's to prove a FH SOS debate... Possibly the 70's? If so you had trimble peck hare manges going D1... All playing better competition than those 90's schedules and recent FH schedules.... Validating what's already been said...
10. Location, Competition Level and Production
You may be asking "what does location have to do with anything?", so let me explain. California, Florida and Texas are three of the best states for football.
Georgia, Alabama, Virginia and Ohio are up there too. If a recruit is from an area or school that is known for traditionally producing talent, then that bodes well and coaches/scouts
****-->((((DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.))))<--****
-->HONESTLY, COACHES ARE GOING TO FLOCK TO SEE SONY MICHEL BECAUSE HE'S IN FLORIDA BEFORE THEY GO SEE A RB FROM SOUTH DAKOTA (CUMBERLAND MD).<--
WITH THOSE HOTBED AREAS COME THE """ASSURANCE THAT THE RECRUIT HAS BEEN FACING GOOD COMPETITION""". -->IF HE'S BEEN PRODUCING AGAINST GOOD COMPETITION THEN HIS CHANCES OF PRODUCING IN COLLEGE BECOME THAT MUCH GREATER.<--
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...llege-football-recruits-are-evaluated/page/12
10. Location, Competition Level and Production
You may be asking "what does location have to do with anything?", so let me explain. California, Florida and Texas are three of the best states for football.
Georgia, Alabama, Virginia and Ohio are up there too. If a recruit is from an area or school that is known for traditionally producing talent, then that bodes well and coaches/scouts
****-->((((DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.))))<--****
-->HONESTLY, COACHES ARE GOING TO FLOCK TO SEE SONY MICHEL BECAUSE HE'S IN FLORIDA BEFORE THEY GO SEE A RB FROM SOUTH DAKOTA (CUMBERLAND MD).<--
WITH THOSE HOTBED AREAS COME THE """ASSURANCE THAT THE RECRUIT HAS BEEN FACING GOOD COMPETITION""". -->IF HE'S BEEN PRODUCING AGAINST GOOD COMPETITION THEN HIS CHANCES OF PRODUCING IN COLLEGE BECOME THAT MUCH GREATER.<--
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...llege-football-recruits-are-evaluated/page/12
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I would go a step further and say coaches aren't playing kids in the right position to succeed in college. #63 for FH never should have been on the line. Granted he has like 40 sacks but he isn't big enough to play the line in college. And #2 should have been the split end, not running the ball. It could have hurt Fort Hill's chances winning games but getting him to college should be the priority. Graves should not have played QB. He is a safety in college and that's where coaches should have left him on one side of the ball to maximize his scholarship chances. Screw team goals.
I guess when all else fails lets distort, exaggerate and deflect attention away from what's being discussed... I thought you wanted to talk about "why no scholarships in the 1990s is the question" Now its some off the wall discussion about position changes? LmaoIn this day and age of fake news and trump politics I shouldn't expect anything else... Next thing will be said is that people are advocating for a FH Patriots and ravens match up.... Oh that's right, that exaggeration has already been used... I guess this is my que to step aside from the world of making up absurd and out in left field remarks...someone else can baby sit him...
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