Alco was at Boonsboro tonight and at Northern next week. Those games have been cancelled by Alco due to varsity numbers and having to move everyone up.
Alco cancels JV games
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Did they move the games to Saturday or were the games cancelled? I think the Boonsboro game this week may have been cancelled
Boonsboro and Northern games are cancelled. FH is waiting on an answer for their game with Alco JV to find replacement.
Yes correct. Alco JV games the next two weeks are cancelled. Hampshire also has been dropping JV games. The participation crunch is widespread. Although teams cancelling freshmen and JV games due to lack of numbers has been going on for decades. It's not new, just a little more widespread.
Boyz brings up a valid point that we have argued with the MPSSAA about several times. The MPSSAA sports calendar runs Sunday to Sunday. The problem with this is that a kid can only play 4 quarters of football in that week period. So for example if he plays JV on Monday or Tuesday for 2 quarters then he can only play in the varsity game 2 quarters that weekend. If they made the calendar Friday to Friday, then a kid can play or not play varsity on that weekend and then coaches know how many quarters he can play in the JV game later that week. Hope that is not confusing. I think WV does it this way. It's bascially making sure a kid gets to play in games.
Boyz brings up a valid point that we have argued with the MPSSAA about several times. The MPSSAA sports calendar runs Sunday to Sunday. The problem with this is that a kid can only play 4 quarters of football in that week period. So for example if he plays JV on Monday or Tuesday for 2 quarters then he can only play in the varsity game 2 quarters that weekend. If they made the calendar Friday to Friday, then a kid can play or not play varsity on that weekend and then coaches know how many quarters he can play in the JV game later that week. Hope that is not confusing. I think WV does it this way. It's bascially making sure a kid gets to play in games.
Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendor in the grass, of glory in the flower;
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind - Wordsworth
Of splendor in the grass, of glory in the flower;
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind - Wordsworth
I always heard that in WV players are allowed six quarters, but its been a long time since I have heard that.
An Alco parent said there was a possibility the games may be rescheduled for Saturdays, but they might have got that mixed up.
I thought you can only play in 1 game a week in Maryland. I didn't think that it is based on quarters.
Allegany is trying to schedule some Saturday games, that way they can see what JV kids they have to use on Friday night. If they don't use them they can play on Saturday. Not the preferred situation but coach Hansel is doing what he can do to try and play a few more games.
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I mentioned it a few months back, so with the way things are going, why not bring it up again?
Heidi & Co., which includes (I think) the Director of Phys Ed. at the board, along with I'm sure a couple other stakeholders, are going to have a decision to make at the end of this season. My hip shot is that it goes one of two ways:
A, the decision makers all listen to Bryan and empathize with the fact that enrollment and injuries plagued the Alco season from the onset, so success was a reach to begin with. They all agree and let him have another year to turn things around.
B, the decision makers all agree that a change needs to be made, semi ground-up rebuild and they go back... wayyyyyy back. Back into time.
Enter: Randy Stewart as new Alco head coach. No last-minute attempt to quietly usher him into the big chair by Kane this time. Randy has reinvented himself, and done what any wise person with his aspirations would do.
Huh??
You realize your shortcomings and limited capabilities, and then you actually work on them. Randy has done the unspeakable, by flipping to the allegiance that all Cumberland kids are raised to hate, and has coached at FH for how many years now? It's a smart move, and there are some blue guys out there, myself included, that think Randy is as ready as he'll ever be to come back home and lead the Allegany program.
It's a scaled down version of what Lane Kiffin, Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart, Butch Jones, Steve Sarkesian and others have done - go put your time in with the big man w/ little man syndrome, and come out a better, more prepared coach on the other side.
At this point, I think it's our only hope.
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Heidi & Co., which includes (I think) the Director of Phys Ed. at the board, along with I'm sure a couple other stakeholders, are going to have a decision to make at the end of this season. My hip shot is that it goes one of two ways:
A, the decision makers all listen to Bryan and empathize with the fact that enrollment and injuries plagued the Alco season from the onset, so success was a reach to begin with. They all agree and let him have another year to turn things around.
B, the decision makers all agree that a change needs to be made, semi ground-up rebuild and they go back... wayyyyyy back. Back into time.
Enter: Randy Stewart as new Alco head coach. No last-minute attempt to quietly usher him into the big chair by Kane this time. Randy has reinvented himself, and done what any wise person with his aspirations would do.
Huh??
You realize your shortcomings and limited capabilities, and then you actually work on them. Randy has done the unspeakable, by flipping to the allegiance that all Cumberland kids are raised to hate, and has coached at FH for how many years now? It's a smart move, and there are some blue guys out there, myself included, that think Randy is as ready as he'll ever be to come back home and lead the Allegany program.
It's a scaled down version of what Lane Kiffin, Jeremy Pruitt, Kirby Smart, Butch Jones, Steve Sarkesian and others have done - go put your time in with the big man w/ little man syndrome, and come out a better, more prepared coach on the other side.
At this point, I think it's our only hope.
https://fanbuzz.com/college-football/sec/alabama/nick-saban-coaching-tree/
WV allows 40 QTS in a season
No longer have a weekly QT rule
Started about 5 years ago
OT doesn't count its a 4th QT extended
No longer have a weekly QT rule
Started about 5 years ago
OT doesn't count its a 4th QT extended
My info came from the source. The Saturday thing might not be a bad idea except that most JV games are on Monday. Opponents don't like to play Saturday then turn around and play Mon or Tue. Depends on the coach I guess.
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They wouldn't have to play on Monday or Tuesday, that weeks game would be on Saturday
This is how the State of Ohio does JV, Varsity Friday night followed by JV Saturday morning
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They wouldn't have to play on Monday or Tuesday, that weeks game would be on Saturday
This is how the State of Ohio does JV, Varsity Friday night followed by JV Saturday morning
Now that you put it this way I am not positive. I thought it was measured by quarters but maybe not. I looked in the MPSSAA handbook and could not find a pure definition. Maybe it is one game per week. In other words, if you take just one snap in a game that counts as your game for the week. Would like to get some clarification on that rule. If you see it somewhere let me know. Thanks. But again, the MPSSAA week definitely runs from Monday to Saturday.
The Saturday JV game thing is a great idea. The problem would be finding opponents who want to do such.
But you would not just be trying to move that week's game to Saturday, you would have to also take into account the next game. Again, most all JV games are on a Mon or Tue. So if you move a game to Saturday for that week, if the next game is set for 2-3 days later on Mon or Tue there is not enough turn around time. Especially considering you cannot practice or play on Sundays. So again, if say Allegany wanted to move say Northern to a Saturday game, if Northern has their next game scheduled two days later on Monday that would not work. Northern would have to move that game back as well.
Each sport has a limit on the number of contests that they may have. That rule also applies to individual athletes. If basketball is only allowed to have 20 games in a season, a basketball player may only play in 20 games during a season. Regardless of whether the athlete plays on JV or Varsity, and no matter how much of the game the athlete plays, it counts as 1 game. So a football player could not play 8 varsity games and 3 JV games. He'd be over the limit. However, the current MPSSAA Handbook is not up to date and still lists the limit of football games as 10 instead of 9.
The JV issue is not about how many games you can play in a season, but how many quarters you can play in a week.
I was wrong on WV is now 50 QTS in a season
1 play from scrimmage equals a QT
Plays in kicking formation don't count
You could be a punter only punt once a QT and never be in a game all season, but get a letter for the year
1 play from scrimmage equals a QT
Plays in kicking formation don't count
You could be a punter only punt once a QT and never be in a game all season, but get a letter for the year
The MPSSAA Handbook and the Football Bulletin do not list any rule as it pertains to quarters. As far as I know, individuals follow the same rules as it comes to the team schedule. One game per week. If an athlete is in for 1 play in a JV game, that's 1 game. There may be an exception for Allegany's situation where they have to move JV kids up to Varsity in the middle of a week. However, that exception is listed nowhere in any of MPSSAA's rules. MPSSAA makes a solid push to not have athletes be overused. That's why there are rules for the number of contests in a season.
Here is the specific rule from the Handbook: Students who participate on both varsity and junior varsity teams may not play in a number of contests that exceed the maximum number allowed for that sport in a week or season. Students may not compete on both a varsity and junior varsity level against the same school on the same day.
So...for football. 1 game per week and currently 9 games in a season. Although the Handbook still lists 10 games.
Here is the specific rule from the Handbook: Students who participate on both varsity and junior varsity teams may not play in a number of contests that exceed the maximum number allowed for that sport in a week or season. Students may not compete on both a varsity and junior varsity level against the same school on the same day.
So...for football. 1 game per week and currently 9 games in a season. Although the Handbook still lists 10 games.
Could it be a challenge finding refs that are already spread thin for Saturday games?
yes they already do Pee Wee Games in Morning, Youth Games in Afternoon and some high schools games plus there is a few that are working Div 2 and Div 3 College Games as well. a few weeks ago the Allegany game at Greenway had 4 Officials from Winchester VA that are not even registered in Maryland because of a shortage on Officials.
As long as the players from the JV squad that come up to Varsity get a chance to play I guess it is okay. I would hate for them to fold the JV program and move everyone up just to have them on the sideline in case they need them. (Basically meaning it is just a numbers thing)
I am excited about the next couple years for Mountain Ridge. Their QB is only a Sophomore and looks like the real deal. The JV program is 5-0 with 4 of those wins over local squads they will play at the Varsity level. It will be a true test for the second half of the season though. They have games against Fort Hill (this week), Keyser, and Frankfort left in the final 5.
I am excited about the next couple years for Mountain Ridge. Their QB is only a Sophomore and looks like the real deal. The JV program is 5-0 with 4 of those wins over local squads they will play at the Varsity level. It will be a true test for the second half of the season though. They have games against Fort Hill (this week), Keyser, and Frankfort left in the final 5.
Battle of JV unbeatens at Greenway Monday night.
It will ne an uphill battle for Mtn. Ridge. But it is good to see them having success as this level.
I believe some of the Miners JV players have been moved up to varsity to provide depth because of injuries.
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