For years we have had to pay $6.00 for each homecoming ticket. Wasn't that x-tra dollar supposed to go to a stadium upgrade fund? Where's that money to help replace the turf at the stadium?
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
I believe some of you have misguided thoughts on field turf. The truth is field turf has a max life span of 8-10 years no matter where it's laid down. The companies who install it say as much in writing. Well, Greenway turf has lasted the 10 years both times it was installed. It's not a matter of how much it got used. So some of you are confusing it with natural grass. Now grass is something that gets worn based on the amount it's used.
The cost of natural grass is cheaper. But as we saw at Greenway for decades before the turf, it can easily become unplayable come late season. Big time! This is a guarantee when two schools share the field using it for both boys and girls JV/Varsity soccer in addition to freshman, JV and varsity football. Yet no one is going to budge when it comes to their child not getting to use the field. Even if no one was allowed to practice on it or march on it, can't have that many teams using it during the fall.
I find it totally unacceptable to have November / post season games played in these conditions. And this is coming from a guy who lived on that mud field. I have seen way too many huge playoff games that have been marred by a slop field there. If some of you don't recall, the reason the county decided to move to turf was that Alco vs. Beall football playoff game back in 97. They really should have moved that game the field was so bad.
Some might say, "well they used grass for 60 years". But they also didn't have soccer in this area until I think 1979.
The only options I see are:
1) Keep the turf, find the money.
2) Put down grass and find another field for soccer.
Option #2 should be a grass field at the new Allegany HS. That one can be used for soccer for both schools. But now you are dealing with the cost for a 2nd grass field, which is probably more than just putting down turf at Greenway.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS: The county cannot install natural grass at Greenway and allow both schools to use it for all their fall sports. It becomes unplayable and even more important a huge safety issue once the field turns bad. And it will turn bad guaranteed...you can set your clock by it.
I know it will not cover the cost but the $$$$ has to be somewhere. Even it is just $5000.00, that would be great start.Good question, but even if you add that extra dollar up over a 10 year period is does not come close to to covering the cost of the upgrades.
If you only have to worry about the turf every 8-10 years, that's not too bad. At least that will be about 7 years of worry free (or minimal) maintenance.
Isn't the state paying the vast majority of that? And are you comparing the need of a new school to the need of new playing surface.Sorry but the county is in no shape to build a new $60 million high school that only holds 600 students just so the two city schools can stay separated. But they did.
What?If the turf is not fixed, where are all the events held there going to be held? Sooner or later, some high ranking state official will come in and look at the turf and ban activities from being held on it due to a major safety concern.
With the price tag of the new school couldn't a stadium have been built with inexpensive and low maintenance grass? It does not need to be the size of Greenway, but the size of Mtn. Ridge/ Keyser would suffice. But, homecoming would have to be played at Greenway due to the size of the crowd.
How much can Manges & Hare put you down for? And before you spin this, I will be walking to raise money for 'Ol Greenway.
If grass is so inexpensive then why wouldn’t the new alco get a field?The entire nonsensical thing.
'If the turf is not fixed, where are all the events held there going to be held?'
On the grass that would replace it. What else do you think they would play on? For you to actually say that the kids are now incapable of playing grass is funny.
'Sooner or later, some high ranking state official will come in and look at the turf and ban activities from being held on it due to a major safety concern.'
And do what? Shut down the entire county school system?
'With the price tag of the new school couldn't a stadium have been built with inexpensive and low maintenance grass?'
So you are saying that only fort hill should have to pay for greenway, if its stays artificial.
'But, homecoming would have to be played at Greenway due to the size of the crowd'
Why? So fort hill can keep that extra road game at Greenway?
'How much can Manges & Hare put you down for?'
Nothing. You said fort hill should have to pay for it. Besides, why would I pay for something I don't want? If you want to pay for it, by all means donate all you want. And be sure to walk extra far to make it seem like it was because of you and you alone that football season will be able to happen this fall.
If grass is so inexpensive then why wouldn’t the new alco get a field?
Do you really believe that a grass field could with stand the entire the fall sports season? The answer obviously no. Hence the reason of the turf that is currently at greenway.
By Homecoming, prior to 1998, I dont know that I remember a year the field was not basically a mud pit with two grassy end zones. It seemed to get worse every year.
Who said turf wasn’t expensive? Who said it is necessary? This whole thread was about how expensive turf is.If field turf is so necessary and inexpensive, why isn't the Fort Hill practice field covered with it? Do they not care about their kids?
You are trying to tell me that you think there were no fall sports at greenway until 1998? Please tell me what they did before then for the fall sports.
Its actually about what happened to the extra dollar at homecoming.Who said turf wasn’t expensive? Who said it is necessary? This whole thread was about how expensive turf is.
I remember years it was fine all season. Just depended on how much it rained.By Homecoming, prior to 1998, I dont know that I remember a year the field was not basically a mud pit with two grassy end zones. It seemed to get worse every year.
You got me there. But who supposedly said turf was inexpensive? Who supposedly said turf was necessary?Its actually about what happened to the extra dollar at homecoming.
The entire nonsensical thing.
'If the turf is not fixed, where are all the events held there going to be held?'
On the grass that would replace it. What else do you think they would play on? For you to actually say that the kids are now incapable of playing grass is funny.
'Sooner or later, some high ranking state official will come in and look at the turf and ban activities from being held on it due to a major safety concern.'
And do what? Shut down the entire county school system?
'With the price tag of the new school couldn't a stadium have been built with inexpensive and low maintenance grass?'
So you are saying that only fort hill should have to pay for greenway, if its stays artificial.
'But, homecoming would have to be played at Greenway due to the size of the crowd'
Why? So fort hill can keep that extra road game at Greenway?
'How much can Manges & Hare put you down for?'
Nothing. You said fort hill should have to pay for it. Besides, why would I pay for something I don't want? If you want to pay for it, by all means donate all you want. And be sure to walk extra far to make it seem like it was because of you and you alone that football season will be able to happen this fall.
FH practice field isn't covered with it because they use Greenway for practiceIf field turf is so necessary and inexpensive, why isn't the Fort Hill practice field covered with it? Do they not care about their kids?
You are trying to tell me that you think there were no fall sports at greenway until 1998? Please tell me what they did before then for the fall sports.
FH practice field isn't covered with it because they use Greenway for practice
I am not bothered by it, just stating the fact that FH varsity practices just about everydayI believe that's an intentionally vague overstatement. Not saying they have never been on that field outside of game time, but I've personally only noticed FH's football team practicing up behind the visitor bleachers.
But I've seen both schools have various sports and auxilliary groups on the Greenway turf for various practices, band, soccer, etc... Alco's band has had the lights on in the evenings to practice for their shows.I'm not really bothered by any of it.
You got me there. But who supposedly said turf was inexpensive? Who supposedly said turf was necessary?
So many stupid questions... Not one point made in the meanwhile.so many questions....no answers
Where did I say " that the kids are now incapable of playing on grass"?
Where did I even remotely mention shutting down the entire county school system? It was specifically a statement about Greenway.
Where did I mention Fort Hill's schedule as per keeping that extra road game at Greenway?
Where did I say Fort Hill should have to pay for it?
"Why would I pay for something I don't want"? My advice is if you don't want it, if you don't like it, then don't go. Where was your protest when the turf was previously put down?
Where did I say I was walking to make it seem like it was because of me and me alone that football season will be able to happen this fall?
Above are very simple and specific questions, and, a few comments. There should be no issues with being able to answer them.
By the way, my donation to help out 'Ol Greenway will also benefit the Allegany Campers.
OOOOOPS, my bad. I must have overwhelmed you by asking so many questions at the same time. My apologies.When you said if they dont fix the turf there will be no events.
Who said someone from the state would come if the turf wasn't fixed. You.
Where did I mention the new Allegany.
Then why did you mention Allegany should pay for its on stadium?
Where did I say I'm going to the games?
Why would you mention walking then?
Your questions really didn't deserve answers, but there you go.
And please explain how you walking helps allegany?
Oh, so now we can't answer questions with more questions? Or, are you the only one allowed to do that? You have to tell me when you change the rules a little earlier.OOOOOPS, my bad. I must have overwhelmed you by asking so many questions at the same time. My apologies.
Let me just randomly pick just one and start with that. Lets see...here is an easy one. Where did I say Fort Hill should have to pay for it?