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I can only speak on FH numbers. They are large and getting larger. But much of that is based on a winning program.
I have had debates on radio and television the past 5 years or so on the "Don't let your kid play football because of concussions" thing and here is my reply:
Number of US deaths due to kids drowning in swimming pools in 2017: 392
In the United States, it is the second leading cause of death (after motor vehicle crashes) in children 12 and younger.
Approximately 5,100 pool or spa-related injuries occur each year involving children younger than 15.
Don't let your kids swim.
Get where I'm going? There is risk in most everything we do. Football is the most popular sport in the US. It will draw the most attention and so that is where the PC World thrives. Without attention, the PC World dies. Oddly enough almost every person I have argued with on this concussion topic publicly owned a swimming pool for their kids. Amazing rationale some folks keep.
I have had debates on radio and television the past 5 years or so on the "Don't let your kid play football because of concussions" thing and here is my reply:
Number of US deaths due to kids drowning in swimming pools in 2017: 392
In the United States, it is the second leading cause of death (after motor vehicle crashes) in children 12 and younger.
Approximately 5,100 pool or spa-related injuries occur each year involving children younger than 15.
Don't let your kids swim.
Get where I'm going? There is risk in most everything we do. Football is the most popular sport in the US. It will draw the most attention and so that is where the PC World thrives. Without attention, the PC World dies. Oddly enough almost every person I have argued with on this concussion topic publicly owned a swimming pool for their kids. Amazing rationale some folks keep.
There are some studies out that soccer accounts for 15 percent of all sports concussions and that girls soccer is only second to football in sports-related concussions: SOURCE: St. Michael's Hospital, news release, Feb. 10, 2014 (Copyright © 2014 HealthDay.)
So, why not at least drop girl's soccer.
So, why not at least drop girl's soccer.
Sadly it's not just death that is an issue...it's the long term effects of a concussion. No you don't die the day you get it, but to some down the road the repercussions are perhaps worse than death. There's always two sides to every argument. Football is a risk, swimming is a risk, soccer is a risk - it's up to each parent and participant to decide if it's worth the risk given all the facts.
If you assess risk by the numbers then consider that medical error is the third largest cause of death right behind cancer and heart disease. - Report of the Harvard Medical Practice
Study to the State of New York.
So, to live a long life by the numbers, play football and avoid doctors.
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With all the controversy about football and concussions, just wondering if any high school teams have seen a drop in their numbers this year. Just interested.
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But if you dug into the stats on the lingering effects of near drownings and injuries involved with swimming they too outweigh the long term effects of concussions by nearly 350%. Point being very ignorant people are focusing on the concussion issue because it's with the most popular sport in the US while they ignore the merit on studies that show other things are far worse of a risk. Like 350 times worse. It's what America does. If football were as popular as water polo there would be no studies on concussions or no reporting on them because there is no interest in them. The cold hard fact is that concussions and football should rank no where near the top of the ladder of parents worrying about what their kids are participating in. If you let your kids swim or ride a bicycle, then preventing them from putting on a football uniform should not be on your radar.
Also of significant note...the number one cause of death in high school athletics is gymnastics. But you will never read that report or hear it on ESPN because it doesn't fit their agenda of getting attention. We, the people, just feed their machine.
It's apples to oranges. if you can explain how near drowning injuries compare to concussion-like symptoms then maybe i'd see it. years and years of headaches progressing to migraines, depression to anger, withdrawal to violent outbursts, suicidal behavior, it's pretty traumatic not only on the concussed but the families/loved ones of those around.
I'm not even close to saying don't play football, I just think it's an individual decision, like riding a bike without a helmet or paying soccer. Why do we need to cross reference other activities. You might as well throw smoking in there, or chewing.
If football went away life would suck! However, I would understand, just as a lot of players who are speaking out on why they are retiring young understand, put the info. out there and make an informed decision. Hiding the info., like the NFL did, is unacceptable and therefor worthy of the billions of dollars ex-players and their families are being rewarded by the court.
Yes, hiding the info is another story. I never stated football didn't have risks.
Again my point being there are risks in everything we do from getting into a vehicle, riding a bike, swimming, gymnastics, football, to what processed foods parents feed their kids, etc., etc., etc.. Football just happens to be the most popular so that is where the attention gets focused. It doesn't take much to spin the human race.
Or in another twisted TDHelmick apples/oranges philosophy...if one 85 year old person in the US dies of salmonella poisoning from eating tainted food, all 323 million of the population must have their food zapped with chemicals and heat - which kills a human digestive system much more slowly. Once that salmonella death hits the news everyone panics into letting just about any law get passed (also see September 11, 2001). Fear runs our lives - misguided or not, especially with parents.
I appreciate the debate 4inarowtopthat. Disagreeing is good many times.
Many, many winter moons ago I suffered two very significant concussions - both snow activity related. Perhaps because they weren't reported and I did not go to the hospital there is no ban on snow-related activities such as sledding.
I certainly am not making light of this because every precaution available should be put into practice in every contact sport.
I am glad to see that, regardless of sport, the concussion baseline assessment is a requirement in the state of Maryland.
As a high school football and soccer fan, I can say I have seen more blood let on the field during soccer matches than I have ever seen during football games. I have also seen more bones broken during soccer matches than football games. I witnessed a head-to-head collision at Greenway about 12 years ago that delayed the soccer match one hour to tend to the two players and clean up the blood. If anything, I believe high school soccer players should be required to wear mouth guards and soft headgear.
While concussions certainly should not be taken lightly, sometimes I think the government and the media draw a weekly issue out of the proverbial hat to showcase.
For example: Yes, asbestos in any shape or form is dangerous. However, any person who has worked construction for any length of time will tell you that fiberglass insulation is just as dangerous.
I certainly am not making light of this because every precaution available should be put into practice in every contact sport.
I am glad to see that, regardless of sport, the concussion baseline assessment is a requirement in the state of Maryland.
As a high school football and soccer fan, I can say I have seen more blood let on the field during soccer matches than I have ever seen during football games. I have also seen more bones broken during soccer matches than football games. I witnessed a head-to-head collision at Greenway about 12 years ago that delayed the soccer match one hour to tend to the two players and clean up the blood. If anything, I believe high school soccer players should be required to wear mouth guards and soft headgear.
While concussions certainly should not be taken lightly, sometimes I think the government and the media draw a weekly issue out of the proverbial hat to showcase.
For example: Yes, asbestos in any shape or form is dangerous. However, any person who has worked construction for any length of time will tell you that fiberglass insulation is just as dangerous.
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Consider how many millions were killed off when the low grade Fussolinis of the media campaigned to shift the country from butter to margarine.
Southern has very good numbers this year which is really nice to hear. Approximately 65-70 players
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