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Fort Hill vs. Hollidaysburg

I watched the Commercial Vid on the FH game. Sure, not as fast as last year... but dude! Large, quick and machine-like. This is a walk-over. Chevaliers to scheduling. 60 - 6 if FH wants that score.
 
Our own scheduling magician TDHelmick said on WCBC last night that Hollidaysburg gave up 500 rushing yards to State College last week and that State had three 100 yard rushers. Say no more.

FH 63 Hollidaysburg 14
 
Our own scheduling magician TDHelmick said on WCBC last night that Hollidaysburg gave up 500 rushing yards to State College last week and that State had three 100 yard rushers. Say no more.

FH 63 Hollidaysburg 14

Hansel needs to get some of this meat.
 
Wow. This is a very good FH football team. Hope they don't become complacent this early in the season.
 
Are you new to the area? Todd apples teams do not get complacent.
 
Where do you mean Fort Hill hasn't played anybody yet. Just because we haven't played Chestnut Ridge does that mean we haven't played anybody?
 
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Where do you mean Fort Hill hasn't played anybody yet. Just because we haven't played Chestnut Ridge does that mean we haven't played anybody?

USO ranked 6546 nationally. Keyser ranked 4466 nationally. Hollidaysburg ranked 3220 nationally. And it continues easy until you get to Melbourne, which may or may not happen if Florida continues to get hit with multiple hurricanes.

I have already posted praise for FH, but I am not going to pretend that they have been tested. Alco played Dunbar ranked 1794. CR ranked 2427. Allegany's first walkover was tonight with MR.

So, yes.... FH hasn't played anybody.
 
I thought you didn't put much stock in MaxPreps. But I see you're quoting them verbatim now. Allegany should have kicked the shit out of Chestnut ridge but didn't. Analyze it anyway you want to
 
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I thought you didn't put much stock in MaxPreps. But I see you're quoting them verbatim now. Allegany should have kicked the shit out of Chestnut ridge but didn't. Analyze it anyway you want to

Yes, Alco should have played them the way they did last year. I haven't seen the vid of the MR game, but I understand Alco has gone back to an older defense.

As far as MaxPreps, I don't really follow them. I went to them this year - for what it's worth - because FH has been ranked so high and continues to climb. I used them to do a 'spread' analysis of Alco and FH because there was so much attention given to the FH schedule.

I also posted that if Allegany beat Dunbar they would win homecoming. Shows you how much I know.
 
I thought you didn't put much stock in MaxPreps. But I see you're quoting them verbatim now. Allegany should have kicked the shit out of Chestnut ridge but didn't. Analyze it anyway you want to

I respect Lag, but I was thinking the same thing. If I recall, it was only a few weeks ago that a comment was made that FH's ranking in MaxPreps really didn't mean anything. Now, the rankings are meaningful.

The end result between FHHS and AHS will be determined on the field.

Having seen both play, it will be a very good game, but I don't see any team scoring more than 20 points against the Sentinel first-team. I also don't see the Sentinels being held to any less than 28 points per game, and I do believe the only team that has the potential to do that is Allegany. Why? Knowledge of the wing-t.
 
anyone see the kicks that the Hollidaysburg kicker was making in warm ups tonight? He made one from 65 with room to spare right before the 2nd half kickoff. Attempted from 70 but came up short. Those numbers are not misprints.
 
great job by the Hoover kid tonight not only on the pick 6 but locking down the big play receiver for the Golden Tigers. He's been very good through 3 games.
 
Everyone keeps asking me how good this FH team is. Diehard FH guys I grew up with asking the same. I want to say wow this team is amazing. I've seen FH teams dominate before but this is mind-boggling. The defense is so quick, the OL is so big, mobile, technically sound and dominating. Banks was good last year but he is another dimension this year. Hamilton literally takes out the whole left side, you simply can't run his direction. I see the secondary getting better each week against all these spread teams. The whole team is so fundamentally sound.

However, I will agree with people like Lag on this one. Until I see them get punched into the 2nd half. Until I see other teams take away normal FH options that work against lesser teams I really can't say how good. No denying that. At the 1A level we all know how good. Beyond that only time will tell.

On the other hand while USO, Keyser and Hollidaysburg are far from world beaters...they are not super terrible to the point of getting beat by a combined 183-18. And all those 18 points came against the FH subs. When I see Keyser beat an undefeated Weir team, when I see Hollidaysburg beat a decent Central team I know they aren't super terrible. Just way out of the FH league this year and not good enough to use as a measuring stick. I don't see FH getting punched for the next month. Week 7, 8 and 10 will tell how good they are. That is a brutal stretch.
 
Also, playing armchair QB (coaches hate that)...but if #24 for FH buys into what the coaches are telling him he has the speed to take them to a whole other level. I think he had two carries tonight late in game which was his first action of the young season. ZOOM!! I'm only speaking from a football knowledge standpoint. I don't have the luxury of coaching him. Just using my eyes when the ball is snapped and he gets the ball. That kid hits the perimeter so fast you blink and he's gone. Arm tackles don't bring him down anymore either.

I also play armchair QB with the NFL Ravens. That's what people like us do :)
 
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09/15/17 By Gary M. Baranec

HOLLIDAYSBURG — Anyone with access to the internet or anyone who has seen the Fort Hill High School football team in person since the 1990s knows that the Sentinels perform like a machine when it comes to offensive execution. Hollidaysburg knew about it from last year’s 55-12 loss.

The Golden Tigers got to experience that again, unfortunately, but this time in front of a near-capacity crowd at home on Friday night.

The Class 1A defending state champs from Maryland jumped out to a 35-0 halftime lead en route to a 42-10 victory. The loss dropped Hollidaysburg to 2-2, while the Sentinels improved to 3-0. They have scored 176 points in their wins.

“They execute very well. We talked to our guys about that this week. When you have a team that executes that well, the margin for error is very small,” Tigers coach Homer DeLattre said. “We made too many mistakes against a really good team.”

Hollidaysburg had to punt on its first two offensive series. The Sentinels scored on their first two series, One went 10 plays and 65 yards, ending in a Troy Banks 2-yard run. The other went seven plays and 63 yards, again ending on a Banks score, this one from 1 yard out.

“Hollidaysburg is very physical on defense,” Sentinels coach Todd Appel said. “No yard was easy, but five of our six offensive linemen only go one way and that helps. If we can get more conditioned, that is what we do, wear people out. It was a battle up front, and that is what they usually do. The battle is to see who can maintain that fight for a long time and our kids did that.”

Hollidaysburg’s drives in the second quarter ended in a punt, a fake punt that did not get a first down, and an interception return by the Sentinels’ Jadon Hoover, who took it back for a 50-yard touchdown.

“We did not capitalize on our offensive possessions,” said DeLattre, whose club was held to 43 yards of offense and three first downs in the first half. “We did not possess the ball long enough, which in turn kept our defense on the field a lot. When you play a scheme like theirs, you have to limit their plays.”

Besides the pick-6 for a score, Fort Hill got touchdown runs of 23 and 38 yards from Brayden Poling on drives that went 11 plays and three plays. When the halftime dust settled, it was 35-0 Sentinels.

Poling rushed for 114 yards on eight carries in the game, while Banks finished with 145 yards on 14 carries, and neither back played more than one series in the second half.

“We do have a lot of depth there. Thank God for that,” said Appel, who had six different guys carry the ball in the first half. “It was hot here, humid. Hopefully our kids will get better as the year goes on.”

Fort Hill played its starters one series in the second half, scoring on a 16-yard pass from Logan Johnson to Anthony Smith. Ryan Hipp’s sixth PAT made it 42-0.

“I told our kids (at halftime) I didn’t want to see another penalty. I didn’t want to see another unsportsmanlike conduct penalty or a personal foul penalty because we don’t play like that,”DeLattre said when asked about his halftime message. “We told them to go out and try to win the second half.”

The Tigers scored on a Brady Walters’ 70-yard touchdown pass to Jack Sauserman as time expired in the third quarter. Kicker Vlad Hilling booted a 38-yard field goal with 2:42 to go in the game to set the final score. Now, DeLattre and his staff will prepare for another home game, this one from Brashear out of the city of Pittsburgh.

“I told our kids that everyone has to take ownership of their mistakes. Things we have done wrong are all correctable,” he said. “We want to make sure they are getting better and that goes for everyone, coaches and players. If we do that, we are capable of winning the rest of our games.”

Game notes: Banks rushed for 101 yards in the first half on 13 carries. … Trevor Mitchell, a two-way starter on the line for the Tigers, left the field in the second half with an apparent leg injury and did not return. … Before the game, Hollidaysburg honored coaches from its program’s past. In attendance were Joe Gallagher, Dick Gooderham, Dale Carson and Bob Greene. …There were eight fan busses from Fort Hill that came to the game, giving the team a total of 12 counting the band and team busses. Fans for the Sentinels started lining up at the gate for the game before 5 p.m.

SCORE BY QUARTERS

Fort Hill 14 21 7 0 — 42

Hollidaysburg 0 0 7 3 — 10

First quarter

FH–Banks 2 run (Hipp kick), 6:42

FH–Banks 1 run (Hipp kick), 2:51

Second quarter

FH–Poling 23 run (Hipp kick), 5:33

FH–Poling 38 run (Hipp kick), 2:38

FH–Hoover 50 int. return (Hipp kick), 1:43

Third quarter

FH–Smith 16 pass from Johnson (Hipp kick), 10:02

H–Sauserman 70 pass from Walters (Hilling kick), :00

Fourth quarter

H–Hilling 38 FG, 2:42.

INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS

RUSHING: Fort Hill–Johnson 1-18, Banks 14-145, Poling 8-114, Swan 6-17, Appel 1-14, Haskins 4-9, Powell 5-25, Yacenech 1-2, K. Smith 2-52, Little 1-(-1), Lamb 1-10. Hollidaysburg–Young 14-33, Walters 11-15, Day 1-1, Sauserman 1-2, Miller 2-12, Kratzer 1-(-1), Barr 2-12, Weyant 2-4.

PASSING: Fort Hill–Johnson 3-4-0-30. Hollidaysburg–Walters 5-13-1-130, Kratzer 0-2-0-0.

RECEIVING: Fort Hill–Poling 1-2, A. Smith 2-28. Holidaysburg–Nolan 3-60, Sauserman 1-70, Sensenig 1-0.

INTERCEPTIONS: Fort Hill–Hoover. Hollidaysburg–None.

TEAM STATISTICS FH H

First downs 21 9

Rushes-yards 44-405 34-78

Passing (comp.-att.-int.) 3-4-0 6-15-1

Yards passing 30 130

Total yards 435 208

Fumbles-lost 2-0 2-0

Penalties-yards 8-80 5-41

Punts-avg. 1-45.0 3-40.1
 
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I respect Lag, but I was thinking the same thing. If I recall, it was only a few weeks ago that a comment was made that FH's ranking in MaxPreps really didn't mean anything. Now, the rankings are meaningful.

The end result between FHHS and AHS will be determined on the field.

Having seen both play, it will be a very good game, but I don't see any team scoring more than 20 points against the Sentinel first-team. I also don't see the Sentinels being held to any less than 28 points per game, and I do believe the only team that has the potential to do that is Allegany. Why? Knowledge of the wing-t.

Please find any quote of mine where I said that MaxPreps didn't mean anything: my comments and analysis about MaxPreps have generally had the caveat 'for what it's worth' attached. Whenever posts about MaxPreps or downstate polls are made they are usually touts by FH forum fans when the numbers are good and condemnations - by the same folks - when the numbers get bad.

In another current thread I made a somewhat sarcastic claim that FH will be ranked in the MaxPreps top 100 by the time they play Melbourne.... appears that FH fans around here gleefully took me seriously on using those MaxPreps numbers.

My use of MaxPreps has always been to show a different perspective and to point up forum hypocrisy. Nothing more.
 
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Believe what you will, Lag.

I believe the word you used was "mercurial" to describe FH's ranking in MaxPreps. Yes, you can call it sarcasm at this point in time since you've been called out on it, but the reality is you made the statement to discredit FH's ranking at that time in MaxPreps.

You can't have it both ways. The rankings are either accurate and useful or they are not. Simple as that.

If the rankings are accurate, then the Campers have played a tougher schedule than the Sentinels at this point in the season - point taken. At the same time, that, too, means that FH's current ranking of 439 is valid. And...if FH continues to win and ends up with an "ever-changing" ranking as the season progresses, you will just have to accept such a ranking - even if it is in the top 100. :)

Oh, and it's all good, Lag.

The FH - Alco game will be decided by the players on the field and the coaches on the sidelines - not by a few old folks (myself included) on a message board.

Peace. :)
 
Believe what you will, Lag.

I believe the word you used was "mercurial" to describe FH's ranking in MaxPreps. Yes, you can call it sarcasm at this point in time since you've been called out on it, but the reality is you made the statement to discredit FH's ranking at that time in MaxPreps.

You can't have it both ways. The rankings are either accurate and useful or they are not. Simple as that.

If the rankings are accurate, then the Campers have played a tougher schedule than the Sentinels at this point in the season - point taken. At the same time, that, too, means that FH's current ranking of 439 is valid. And...if FH continues to win and ends up with an "ever-changing" ranking as the season progresses, you will just have to accept such a ranking - even if it is in the top 100. :)

Oh, and it's all good, Lag.

The FH - Alco game will be decided by the players on the field and the coaches on the sidelines - not by a few old folks (myself included) on a message board.

Peace. :)

"I say, good for FH. Big Red started the year at 1529, beating up on USO (currently ranked 6551). As a result of this achievement they increased their ranking to (I think) 770. Then, FH kicked the snot out of Keyser (currently ranked 4475) to get a mercurial ranking of 443. By the time they get through the Golden Tigers (3227) Silver Oak (8587) and Westinghouse (7015) they should be in the top 100, easy."

Both ways? I list patsy after patsy, being very specific to show their national ranking, so even a modicum of thought would show that FH got a 'mercurial' reward from beating up on lowly teams. And, if that is going to be the ongoing standard, then by the time FH actually gets to a real challenge they will be in the top 100.

Why is this so difficult to understand?
 
So...again...you have proven that you're not certain if the rankings are valid when they involve the Sentines. Yet, you use the rankings to show that the Campers have played a more difficult schedule to this point.

Say what you will, Lag, but you have contradicted yourself.

It's okay...even folks at our ages make mistakes in our cognitive processes. I just hope I don't have trouble remembering how to sit in a chair some day or the names of my loved ones.

It really does only take a "modicum" of inference to determine your perspective.

Again, peace. :)
 
So...again...you have proven that you're not certain if the rankings are valid when they involve the Sentines. Yet, you use the rankings to show that the Campers have played a more difficult schedule to this point.

Say what you will, Lag, but you have contradicted yourself.

It's okay...even folks at our ages make mistakes in our cognitive processes. I just hope I don't have trouble remembering how to sit in a chair some day or the names of my loved ones.

It really does only take a "modicum" of inference to determine your perspective.

Again, peace. :)

Nuance escapes you. Mkay. No biggie.

For the gentlemen of letters among us:

"My use of MaxPreps has always been to show a different perspective and to point up forum hypocrisy. Nothing more."
 
Bullshit Lag. You used Maxpreps (and any other means you can find) to do nothing but discredit Fort Hill. Other posters have even seen through your crap. Your "back sliding" posts are as funny as the comics in the Cumberland Times. You really should go back and see just how far you have slid. It is sooooo comical.

Stick to not wanting a new video service in Cumberland. Because your football posts have went out with the crap I just flushed.

BTW, you posted you worked for a Fortune 500 company. Do you realize that a person who sells used/ donated clothes from a Goodwill store are also employeed by a "Fortune 500" company ?
 
Nuance escapes you. Mkay. No biggie.

For the gentlemen of letters among us:

"My use of MaxPreps has always been to show a different perspective and to point up forum hypocrisy. Nothing more."

Well, Lag, it's easy to make that statement in this particular thread, but that certainly wasn't the way your perspectives on MaxPreps were taken in the past. Nuance? There was none, and two of us have called you out on it.

Just to note what you said earlier in this thread:

"USO ranked 6546 nationally. Keyser ranked 4466 nationally. Hollidaysburg ranked 3220 nationally. And it continues easy until you get to Melbourne, which may or may not happen if Florida continues to get hit with multiple hurricanes.

I have already posted praise for FH, but I am not going to pretend that they have been tested. Alco played Dunbar ranked 1794. CR ranked.

Allegany's first walkover was tonight with MR.
"

Bottom line: Either the rankings are accurate or not. Regardless of one's profession, it simply would not make sense to analyze data that are not valid and or valuable, but you have chosen to do so.

If you need to be the smartest person communicating via this forum, so be it...have at it...please continue....

Please know I don't have time to play throughout the day or into tomorrow, so this will be my last comment.

For the Common Folk Among Us:

"The smaller the mind the greater the conceit."
-Aesop

Peace to all! :)
 
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Bullshit Lag. You used Maxpreps (and any other means you can find) to do nothing but discredit Fort Hill. Other posters have even seen through your crap. Your "back sliding" posts are as funny as the comics in the Cumberland Times. You really should go back and see just how far you have slid. It is sooooo comical.

Stick to not wanting a new video service in Cumberland. Because your football posts have went out with the crap I just flushed.

BTW, you posted you worked for a Fortune 500 company. Do you realize that a person who sells used/ donated clothes from a Goodwill store are also employeed by a "Fortune 500" company ?

No. You and your I'm-wonderful-your-nobody FH forum spit-swapper can't stand any critical comments.

You didn't "flush" anything. You didn't "call" anybody out. The two of you got your panties in a wad because I pointed out - in one perspective - that FH is getting high ranks without having really played anybody yet.

At least Helmick has common sense and understands:

"However, I will agree with people like Lag on this one. Until I see them get punched into the 2nd half. Until I see other teams take away normal FH options that work against lesser teams I really can't say how good. No denying that."

As far as "back sliding" is concerned, I do believe you think this is the church of FH. Regardless, it will never stop me posting my - all too often - criticisms of Alco or FH.

And, it will never stop me offering up a different perspective when you and others start leg-humping some downstate poll or MaxPreps rankings.

Oh, and in another post a short while back there was a real moronic slap at VMI. It was about attacking my sons. I didn't respond because it said more about the person who posted it. The slap here about Fortune 500 companies has the similar slime about it. That was in the Commercial Vid thread.... Is there a grudge about that too... did you lose money on it not going through?


 
Well, Lag, it's easy to make that statement in this particular thread, but that certainly wasn't the way your perspectives on MaxPreps were taken in the past. Nuance? There was none, and two of us have called you out on it.

Just to note what you said earlier in this thread:

"USO ranked 6546 nationally. Keyser ranked 4466 nationally. Hollidaysburg ranked 3220 nationally. And it continues easy until you get to Melbourne, which may or may not happen if Florida continues to get hit with multiple hurricanes.

I have already posted praise for FH, but I am not going to pretend that they have been tested. Alco played Dunbar ranked 1794. CR ranked.

Allegany's first walkover was tonight with MR.
"

Bottom line: Either the rankings are accurate or not. Regardless of one's profession, it simply would not make sense to analyze data that are not valid and or valuable, but you have chosen to do so.

If you need to be the smartest person communicating via this forum, so be it...have at it...please continue....

Please know I don't have time to play throughout the day or into tomorrow, so this will be my last comment.

For the Common Folk Among Us:

"The smaller the mind the greater the conceit."
-Aesop

Peace to all! :)

"There was none, and two of us have called you out on it."

Ugh... no and no. Read my other post when you get a chance.
 
Just wanted to interrupt the war of words to give kudos for the Hollidaysburg staff for letting the early arriving FH fans into the stadium. Most places make the Fort Hill throng wait until a certain time. Nice stadium, great band, quality opponent. Hopefully the relationship between the two schools will continue.
 
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Just wanted to interrupt the war of words to give kudos for the Hollidaysburg staff for letting the early arriving FH fans into the stadium. Most places make the Fort Hill throng wait until a certain time. Nice stadium, great band, quality opponent. Hopefully the relationship between the two schools will continue.

Honestly, it was a Road Trip second to none. Great experience.
 
Just wanted to interrupt the war of words to give kudos for the Hollidaysburg staff for letting the early arriving FH fans into the stadium. Most places make the Fort Hill throng wait until a certain time. Nice stadium, great band, quality opponent. Hopefully the relationship between the two schools will continue.
 
I have been over to watch Holidaysburg quite a few times over the years didn't make this trip.
The best road game experience for me is still Sherando hands down.

Sherando 2 years ago is probably my favorite football single game experience all time. Rating everything top to bottom, not just one game, but travel, facilities, environment, the whole deal, I like Hollidaysburg.
 
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