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This post was edited on 11/24 9:30 AM by Waggle Pass
This post was edited on 11/24 9:30 AM by Waggle Pass
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My understanding is that the MVAL has already agreed to shift teams into newer division alignments based on enrollments as opposed to regional/county affiliation like this posted article suggested. Too many Frederick County schools complaining about the Hagerstown school scheduling advantages for making the playoffs. South Hagerstown this year was a prime example. North benefited a few years prior. But it's also a prime example of how playing a weaker schedule is more beneficial to making the playoffs as opposed to a tough schedule. Bad system, real bad.
It's also my understanding that several other counties around Baltimore are complaining about the MPSSAA regional format. When a 9-1 team doesn't make it but a 5-5 team does, someone will complain. And complain they should.
This post was edited on 11/26 11:19 AM by TDHelmick
It's also my understanding that several other counties around Baltimore are complaining about the MPSSAA regional format. When a 9-1 team doesn't make it but a 5-5 team does, someone will complain. And complain they should.
This post was edited on 11/26 11:19 AM by TDHelmick
Although they may not be the power they once were, Seneca Valley has gone 7-3 & 8-2 the past two seasons and has not made the playoffs. Pushed out by South Hagerstown.
I heard from someone at South that they will be realigning the MVAL but only for football. I have heard that South (and I assume North) will be playing Urbana, Linganore, Tuscarora, Oakdale, TJ, Frederick and Westminster.
As I stated in another thread, I have never been a fan of the regional concept and after watching 2 of the best teams in 3A play a second round game last week, my loathing of it is greater (and yes I would still be saying this had Linganore won).
As I stated in another thread, I have never been a fan of the regional concept and after watching 2 of the best teams in 3A play a second round game last week, my loathing of it is greater (and yes I would still be saying this had Linganore won).
That is what I have heard as well Lancer. Not sure of the other sports, but football I believe is a done deal.
We all have debated these same topics ad nauseam. Too bad the MPSSAA can't step up and do the same as the MVAL and force teams to play so many games within their own region. This whole concept currently in place is as illogical as it gets. Do teams like Northern, Southern, Smithsburg, Hancock, etc wish to be forced to play the Cumberland schools? No. At the same time should these same teams be in a playoff race with the Cumberland schools? No. So what do you do? There are only three options other than the one currently being used.
1. Seed everyone 1-16 and do away with the regional set up.
2. Keep the regional set up but then require teams to play so many teams within their region
3. Keep the regional set up but let the top 8 teams make the playoffs
I'm so sick of this "scheduling to make the playoffs" routine. I don't blame the schools, I blame the MPSSAA big time. They are the root of the problem. The MVAL realized they had the same exact problem. At least they fixed it real quick. Kudos to them.
This post was edited on 11/26 3:21 PM by TDHelmick
We all have debated these same topics ad nauseam. Too bad the MPSSAA can't step up and do the same as the MVAL and force teams to play so many games within their own region. This whole concept currently in place is as illogical as it gets. Do teams like Northern, Southern, Smithsburg, Hancock, etc wish to be forced to play the Cumberland schools? No. At the same time should these same teams be in a playoff race with the Cumberland schools? No. So what do you do? There are only three options other than the one currently being used.
1. Seed everyone 1-16 and do away with the regional set up.
2. Keep the regional set up but then require teams to play so many teams within their region
3. Keep the regional set up but let the top 8 teams make the playoffs
I'm so sick of this "scheduling to make the playoffs" routine. I don't blame the schools, I blame the MPSSAA big time. They are the root of the problem. The MVAL realized they had the same exact problem. At least they fixed it real quick. Kudos to them.
This post was edited on 11/26 3:21 PM by TDHelmick
From what I have heard, I dont think South and North are too happy about this but it needed to happen. If South kept their current schedule, sooner or later they were going to go 10-0 and miss the playoffs. If 2 or 3 games go a different way this year, it more than likely would have happened now.
I fully understand that travel is the big reason against 1-16, but at some point, the MPSSAA needs to realize that deserving teams are being left out because they happen to be in a tough region. I have a hard time believing that City, Reservoir, Huntingtown and a few others were more deserving than Seneca Valley.
I fully understand that travel is the big reason against 1-16, but at some point, the MPSSAA needs to realize that deserving teams are being left out because they happen to be in a tough region. I have a hard time believing that City, Reservoir, Huntingtown and a few others were more deserving than Seneca Valley.
Heard the realignment is a done deal. 3A division, partial 2A division, 1A division ( with 2A Catoctin and Williamsport).
Play each team in your division and fill in the rest with upper/lower division. This will be alot for many schools.
Play each team in your division and fill in the rest with upper/lower division. This will be alot for many schools.
The only bad thing is we may have lost some newly rekindled rivalries. For the 3A division, that only leaves 2 open weeks. In the case of Linganore, we will lose either South Carroll, Middletown or Walkersville. I have heard there were rumblings from Walkersville about having to play the larger schools so I look for them to drop Linganore and Urbana. Middletown-Linganore has turned into quite the rivalry so I hope they find a way to keep that alive.
Heard the same things. Middletown/Ling is over for now. Heard one of our open dates is Urbana. Walk. does have Ling.
Do you know if the MVAL is forcing the open dates to be teams within the other MVAL divisions? I would personally like to see the open dates against larger schools for points purposes. We are at a disadvantage to the MOCO teams who don't play any 2A schools, especially when 1 or 2 points can make the difference between home field and going on the road.
Y'all wanna add a 1a team from South Cumberland since you are doing all this shuffling and realigning? Lol
Sheldon Shealer is reporting that Carroll County will be withdrawing from the MVAL at the end of the 2014-2015 school year to compete on their own.
The Carroll school system was strongly opposed to the MVAL realignment.
The Carroll school system was strongly opposed to the MVAL realignment.
That 9-1 team was Patapsco and with the schedule they played they didn't deserve to be a playoff team. A 3A school with plenty of teams to schedule picked all the weakest 1A-2A schools in the area and smoked them. The only decent team they played was 3A Dundalk and Dundalk won
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